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[Giles Coren and Sue Perkins, The Supersizers Eat… The Eighties]

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[Jeff Davis/Teen Wolf]

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[Django Unchained]

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[Valiant Hearts: The Great War]

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[Child of Light]

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[Jurassic Park]

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[Hate Plus]

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[The Three Investigators]

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I wish people would tag their Blurred Lines/Robin Thicke whining so i could blacklist it. I am soooooo sick of hearing about how awful the song is (and seeing all the stupid fucking parodies). The only people who think it is about rape, are people who specifically listened to taht song looking for rape. And some of the complaints about it are so fucking stupid (also Robin Thicke is not the only person who wrote or sang that song, fyi).

Honestly, I was not even interested in the song until people kept complaining about it. So I listened to it and...it is a really catchy song. So thanks whiners for introducing me to a new song!

I heard it the other day before I realized what/who it was. I still thought it sounded kind of crappy tbh. But it's not really my type of music I guess?

I heard the song a couple of times before I knew that it was popular and really disliked it purely because I think it's a crappy, annoying song, but never got any rape vibes from it. I will say that I've never looked up the lyrics (guess what I'm about to do?) so it's possible that I'm missing something.

The only people who think it is about rape, are people who specifically listened to taht song looking for rape.

Not true. The first time I ever heard it I thought it was super fucking creepy and had some really unfortunate, rape-y implications, without knowing anything anyone else had said about it (I don't really listen to pop music or pay any attention to it usually). It was only afterwards that I found out other people felt the same way. So no, I didn't specifically listen to it looking for rape, but I can't really think of a context where someone saying "I know you want it" *doesn't* have rape-y undertones, honestly.

but I can't really think of a context where someone saying "I know you want it" *doesn't* have rape-y undertones, honestly.

Teasing a friend by waving food they hate in their face!

The song is about a woman who decides to break out of the whole "women can't have casual("nasty") sex". And he is talking about "I know you want it" because she grabbed his junk (the next lines).

Just heard this song while shopping and I assumed "the way you grab me" was referring to grabbing his attention. I mean, she's hardly a "good girl" if she's grabbing crotches while out with her boyfriend. Pop lyrics, so ambiguous :(

That's what I got, too.

I don't think it sounds "rape-y" so much as gross. He sounds like a huge douche.

Obviously it's determined by the way they grab you.

I don't hate it, and I don't like it. It is a thing that exists, and I don't know why so many people are devoting brain space to it.

This is pretty much my reaction to every manufactured internet controversy ever. :P

I thought it sounded pretty rapey without even knowing what it was, so, no. Not everyone who's creeped out by it wants to be. And I think people focus on Thicke because of his comments about the song and video, or at least those comments are what I most often see being presented for criticism; I don't personally consider it a terribly impressive piece of music on its own merits, at any rate.

I don't know, I first heard it on the radio and was immediately turned off by the whole "good girl" and "you know you want it" lines - definitely had an immediate rape-y tone to it. Which sucks because the music is fun. I wish the lyrics weren't so creeptastic.

Yea, the music I like, the lyrics I'm not too fond of.

Yeaaah no.

"I know you want it
You're a good girl"

Creepy as fuck right off the bat.

The song itself is iffy but can arguably be up to interpretation. To be honest, a lot of pop songs are like that and by itself, I don't find this one especially offensive. But the video is gross. Upon viewing it, you are left without a doubt as to the direction the artist(s) wants everyone to interpret the song.

I don't think that's really true. AFAIK the idea for the video didn't come from Robin Thicke, it came from the director of the video (who is a woman). She also thought that the video is playful and the women are generally more powerful than the men:

I wanted to deal with the misogynist, funny lyrics in a way where the girls were going to overpower the men. Look at Emily Ratajkowski’s performance; it’s very, very funny and subtly ridiculing. That’s what is fresh to me. It also forces the men to feel playful and not at all like predators. I directed the girls to look into the camera, this is very intentional and they do it most of the time; they are in the power position. I don’t think the video is sexist. The lyrics are ridiculous, the guys are silly as fuck. That said, I respect women who are watching out for negative images in pop culture and who find the nudity offensive, but I find [the video] meta and playful.

(from this interview: http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/80424/qa-veteran-music-video-director-diane-martel-on-her-controversial-videos-for-robin-thicke-and-miley-cyrus)

I think it's at the very least more complicated than just saying "the video proves they're sleazy", you know?

Well, those might have been her intentions, but the finished product didn't exactly live up to her claims. It didn't work for me personally, and it didn't work for a lot of other viewers -- the explicit version, in particular, is almost embarrassingly lacking in taste.

With these lyrics, there could have been ways to make an empowering video that embraced this supposed spirit of fun silliness without coming off extremely unbalanced in portraying the men and women involved, but that didn't happen here. Nudity has been done in music videos many times before, and done tastefully. Here, the female models' bodies couldn't have been more objectified if they had been replaced with actual dancing dolls. Who would watch this and think that they are the ones being empowered, as opposed to the dapper sharp-dressed men they're fawning all over?

Also, why should we let Thicke off the hook just because the idea came from another person? Are we to believe he had no creative input whatsoever in his own music video? (And if so, what kind of an artist is he?) In that very article you linked, it is mentioned that he gave a separate interview claiming that the idea for the video was to be "derogatory toward women". Even the director is on record WTF-ing about that nutbar comment. He also gave another interview claiming that the video couldn't possibly be sexist because, why, all the men in it are happily married. Talk about missing the point on a cosmic level.

It's interesting that she talks as if the lyrics are obviously a joke that everyone is laughing at because they're misogynistic.... didn't Thicke say he thought the lyrics were feminist and liberating?

It also forces the men to feel playful and not at all like predators.

This sentence deeply confuses me.

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