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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-21 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #2454 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
See, Arizona cheating on Callie was one of the only instances in this show that I thought was actually realistic and plausible. I'm really hoping this is the deal-breaker for their relationship because Callie's been put through the wringer so many times already and she deserves so much better. And Arizona is a self-obsessed child who has proven time and again that she refuses to see her own faults and isn't going to change.

(Why did Erika have to leave. Harrumph.)

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it was pretty realistic given all the troubles and stress their relationship had undergone, but like you I just feel really badly for Callie's character (This is the second spouse she's had cheat on her, jesus Rhimes give her a break)

I go back and forth over how I feel about Arizona. Most of the characters are selfish and fucked up a decent amount of the time so sometimes I would be like "okay, you're messed up and kind of annoying but I think it makes you an interesting character and you're cute sometimes" and then at other times (like when she was being an immature brat by trying to sabotage Alex's career to get him to stay in Seattle) it's like "what the fuck is even wrong with you, you're awful".

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
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Her behavior with the whole Alex thing still makes me go "wtf". It certainly wasn't the most unethical thing anyone on that show has done but it might be in the running for most petty...

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
How about the fact that she got on the plane out of spite because Alex *dared* to get into the most prestigious medical program in the country, and as a result was in the crash. And then she told Alex that it should have been him with the amputated leg and not her, and that how could something so awful happen to someone as good as her and not as awful as Alex. Yes, this is an actual thing that she said.

Callie and Arizona's relationship went through the ringer in S9 because, IMO, Arizona couldn't face up to the fact that she's now an amputee. And continually blames Callie for that, although Callie saved her life. I understand Arizona having issues about her condition. But to blame Callie for that constantly was completely unfair, IMO.

And as such, I really couldn't believe that she cheated on Callie. It was sort of like when Owen cheated on Cristina although their main problem has always been that she doesn't want kids and he does. To me, that did come out of nowhere and seemed unbelievable when their real problem was something else entirely.

Sorry for the tl;dr but no one ever wants to discuss Grey's these days and for some reason I can't stop watching it. It's entertaining, for whatever that's worth.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
While it was horrible of Arizona to cheat on her, I think people really forget how Callie had been acting that whole year. She kept talking as though she had been there on the plane. She would group them together as a "we", and she would make assumptions FOR them, when they did not agree. She wanted to sue the pilot when the survivors of the crash were like "wtf... no, he was one of us". Callie just... didn't get it, she was co-opting their experience. She kept acting like she was part of the horror but she wasn't.

And then she also pushed Arizona into getting better. She kept guilting her for "making it all about the leg". Arizona lost a limb and Callie made it about her sex life. I do admire the fact that Callie was often patient, but she could also be REALLY pushy. Arizona was clearly not ready for a lot of the things Callie made her do.

So while I hate that Arizona did what she did, I don't think it's so simple as Arizona being a self-obsessed child. I think if anything... Callie was being a bit self-absorbed as well.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I do agree with you that it was weird that Callie kept acting like she was part of the group, and part of the experience, when she clearly wasn't. So much so that halfway through the season, I started wondering if she had been on the plane, only to realize that she hadn't. So, yeah. That was really weird and annoying.

Arizona was clearly not ready for a lot of the things Callie made her do.
Such as what, exactly? I really disagree with everything else you've said here. Callie did NOT make it all about her sex life. Yes, she made an issue of the fact that she hadn't had sex in several months. Not the most understanding thing to do, but in light of how understanding she was in general, I think it's excusable.

To me, what's INEXCUSABLE is the fact that, even a YEAR later, Arizona still blamed Callie for cutting off her leg. Arizona continually acted as if that was Callie's fault and placed the blame on her, when Callie was responsible for saving her life. Callie had to put up with that kind of stress and guilt which was completely unfair.

Right after the operation, Arizona spent months laying in bed and refusing to go to rehab or anything. Which is understandable because she went through a major trauma, but then yes, Callie did eventually push her to get better. I don't think what she did was wrong.

I'm not really a fan of Callie or Arizona or them as a couple, but this was how I felt about their situation.