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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-22 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2455 ]


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Re: "Making love"

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
At least in the area where I live (southern red state) there's this attitude that sex and love are intertwined to the point of almost being the same thing, and that it's somehow wrong (especially for women) to have sex without being ~in love~ and the people who "make love" rather than just have sex for the hell of it are somehow superior. I've seen the same attitude elsewhere in the country, and given the attitude of people from other countries who are all "OMG Americans are sooooo prudish and uptight about sex!" I figured it was a pretty widespread attitude in the US. And having a common euphemism for "having sex" (especially among people who look down on those who have casual sex/sex without being "in love", at least in my experience) that includes the word "love" just seems to further conflate the idea that the two are the same thing (or should be).

I realize in other time periods and contexts it had a different meaning/connotation but in a modern setting, among people I know and in popular media, where the only way I ever see it used is as a euphemism for having sex, it annoys me.

Re: "Making love"

(Anonymous) 2013-09-22 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

...and that should be "further the idea that the two are the same thing" or "further conflate the two" because as it is, that sentence makes no sense.
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Re: "Making love"

[personal profile] caecilia 2013-09-23 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I see. Yes, I get being annoyed when they attach that attitude to it.

Re: "Making love"

(Anonymous) 2013-09-23 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Just want to jump in to add that it *really* depends on area. The area I live [also red, southern state - in fact, nicknamed "Reddest State in the Union [which is weird considering voting history...but that's a different story]], unless you're in a really backwater town? No one is really going to say much about people having to be in love to have sex. They might side eye it a bit, but over all it tends to be ignored/common enough that the attitude the other anon mention just isn't that common.

[Sorry, I just get really annoyed with how "SOUTHERN STATE" has kind of become a reason until it's self for things when...that's not the case because they aren't the same across the board on a lot of things.]