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Not really no? People warn for sexual things and sexual pairings (slash or het). Doesn't mean it is bad, just means if isn't your cup of tea. And of course you wouldn't warn for cis people, that is 99.9% of the population.

....so, just because it's a minority, that makes it okay for them to be 'warned' for? Potentially stopping a reader from enjoying a story (they're a little disappointed, they go and read something else) or add, even in a small way, to the shit trans* people get every day? I know which one I'd go for.

I get pissed when people warn for slash, too. It's just not right to warn for something that isn't bad. :/

DA

So what if it's a trans* person who is asking? They would rather avoid reading about what they have to deal with IRL all the time. Are you still going to try to champion them and get pissed on their behalf?

WARNINGS ≠ BAD

Warnings = this thing is in here, just in case you want to know.

NO DONT YOU KNOW WARNINGS FOR SEX IS SEX SHAMING

SEX SHAMINGgggggggg

I disagree. I see warning for something as "this thing is bad." Tagging for something, on the other hand, is different. That's letting the reader know it's there without ascribing a judgment value to it.

So how do you feel about warning for kinks or sex?

Same thing. Tag any kinks in the fic, but you don't have to "warn" for them.

But warnings aren't necessarily bad and I don't understand why you think they are. Warning, this story is horror. Warning, this story is full of romance. Warning, this story is a WIP.

None of those things make a judgment, or claim that the thing warned for is bad in any way.

Warning =/= Trigger Warning

I'm going by the definition of the word itself.

Warning: a statement or event that indicates a possible or impending danger, problem, or other unpleasant situation.

Sure you can claim it's all semantics, but the definition of the word indicates it's something bad.

Not really. It's not warning because the thing is a problem. It's warning because readers may *have* a problem.

I have no problem with spiders but I realize other people do and can warn them if I'm posting pictures of one. I recognize the potential of others having a problem, even if I don't believe that spiders are bad. As a queer person if I warn for fem/slash, it doesn't mean I am saying fem/slash is a problem. It means I'm aware some people would rather not read it, and they can avoid "an unpleasant situation" for them.

As a queer person if I warn for fem/slash, it doesn't mean I am saying fem/slash is a problem. It means I'm aware some people would rather not read it, and they can avoid "an unpleasant situation" for them.

As a fellow queer person I don't like it when authors "warn" for (fem)slash. The verbiage definitely bothers me. it's something that should be tagged for sure, but it doesn't require a warning.

We're gonna have to agree to disagree because we're beating a dead horse at this point.

DA

It also means you're aware that there are people who specifically want to read it and nice enough to make it easier for them to find your fic.

I use m/m/slash warnings to get the stupid assholes off my back who are going to have a problem with m/m. It covers my own ass. Like if I put 'warning: m/m, graphic sex, public sex' in the summary, then they were fucking warned so they have no grounds to come into the comments and bitch about any of it. Everyone else who likes slash ignores it because they like m/m and I've never had a problem with people whining for me to stop warning because it's offensive or something.

Yes, really. It's the DEFINITION of the word. Really can't see why people can't apparently grasp something so simple. Strike that, yes I can: they don't want to.

Words may have certain definitions in the dictionary but those dictionary definitions may not follow the word into other contexts, such as certain professions. And your personal word connotations shouldn't be applied to every other person in the entire world.

Not in fanfiction world. Just like slash means male/male pairings to fandom, warnings have a different meaning from the dictionary definition.

This is especially hilarious because "slash" can be a rather painful word, too. Like slashing someone's throat =/= slashing two characters.

I <3 this comment.

Wrong. Warning means the exact same thing. Bad stuff ahead.

Definitions depend on context, though. In fandom, a warning is synonymous with a tag, essentially. Trigger warning is for something that may be a "danger, problem, or unpleasant situation".

Warnings can range from "this is fluff" to "major character death". Warning for m/m might just let people know that the two main male characters are in a relationship rather than what's probably in canon, for instance. If you don't ship that ship it's nice to know in advance. I've seen the same kind of warning for het pairings in gen fic, where they pair up people that aren't together in canon. It lets people know who aren't fans of that pairing.

AO3, ff.net and all the others could just change warnings to hoolalalababuba. It wasn't the best choice maybe, but it's been used to mean "this contains [stuff]" for ages in the fanfiction world.

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