[ SECRET POST #2469 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2469 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Shiloh is a child too young to be concerned about gender identity so...

[(Anonymous)]

This x100. I find it so creepy that people are speculating the gender identity and sexuality of a small child. What, just because she's a tomboy who likes to be called "John", people assume she's trans and refer to her as "he"? FFS she's a small child whose life has nothing to do with you. Stop giving her all these labels before she's even entered school. >_>

[(Anonymous)]

this, so much. when i was a little kid i wanted people to call me... shit, i don't even remember what it was now, it was some name i'd seen in a book i read and thought it was the coolest name ever. so i wanted it to be my name and told everyone so.

honestly, that's about as complex as a kid's thought process gets.

[(Anonymous)]

just because you were a bit simple-minded as a kid* doesn't mean other kids are.

* although come to think of it -- still true!

[(Anonymous)]

It also doesn't mean that you can judge anything about a kid based on what they want to be called or how they dress or what kind of toys they play with.

For the most part, gender identity isn't something that little kids think about. Most kids are happy to play with "girl toys" and "boy toys" regardless of their gender because it's a non-issue to them, and a lot of times kids will try on multiple different identities while they figure out who they are. It's not the place of anyone else to label them.

[(Anonymous)]

Except people do label them? And hard? Just look up about "Pink boys" to see what happens when little boys want to wear Dora the Explorer merch instead of Diego and get harassed and bullied by adults and kids, and people take the parents aside and asked why they're trying to turn their kid into a fag and....

Saying you don't want to judge kids so they shouldn't be labeled is like saying "I don't think gay marriage should be distinct from regular marriage, that's mean. Lets keep things the way they were 10 years ago when no one tried to make them into different things"

[(Anonymous)]

lol when i was little, i wanted everyone to call me "scar" because i thought i was secretly a lion trapped in a kid's body.

now, i'm not saying that some trans kids haven't already figured out their identities at such young ages. but adults need to stop labeling kids just because their kids do something slightly out of the norm. plenty of kids are just really really imaginative and are trying to figure out the world they live in. not every kid is having gender/sexuality/etc crisis.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you fucking kidding me? Try being a trans kid and tell me again that kids don't deeply think/feel this stuff. Yes, cis kids too, it's just that no one is telling them they're wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

I know I didn't.

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[(Anonymous)]

Me neither.

[(Anonymous)]

I did. A lot.

[herongale]

Ugh, this kind of reasoning is so infuriatingly anti-scientific and anti-commonsense.

Basically, children are being taught about their own gender identity since they are born. If a child feels out of sync with the gender identity they've been assigned, they will often notice it and feel it at a very young age. They might not have the words for it yet, especially if they are raised in an environment where gender essentialism is so ingrained and expected that no one even thinks about the possibility that a child may be transgendered, but it's not at all uncommon for this to become an issue FOR THE CHILD at a very young age.

So, in many respects it just doesn't matter if adults don't think a child is old enough to be concerned about their own gender identity. If the child is concerned about it, their concerns are valid, and should not be brushed away with someone being all "you're too young to worry about this; no go along and play with your dolls" mentality.

Because you know what? Eventually "too young" becomes "too old" and the same people who say that a child is too young to worry about such adult things will be baffled and annoyed at adults who express concerns about their own gender identities, saying things like "if it were such an issue, wouldn't you have noticed it a long time ago?" People just can't win.

What age is the "right age?" The only proper answer to this is "whenever the individual in question thinks its an issue." I think if you were saying "Shiloh is too young for ABSOLUTE STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET to be wondering about her gender identity," I'd probably agree with you. But for she herself? If she cares, then she's not too young. End of story.

[(Anonymous)]

this, all of this. People constantly underestimate children but I do agree that the media and everyone should stop trying to label a young child that they don't even really know. There is no "right" age, maybe this is just a phase, maybe not. It's honestly none of our business though. =\