[ SECRET POST #2469 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2469 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

09. http://i42.tinypic.com/34z16b7.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I hate that Suri's Burn Book is so mean to Shiloh (and especially Harper Beckham -- I don't care if it's "just a joke/satire," it's never OK to mock a baby's weight).

[littlestbirds]

I like that blog best when it's being satirical/ridiculous. I do think it would be easy to miss if you didn't follow it on a long term basis though...

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't realize the sexuality of a seven year old was a big deal.

[dancing_clown]

It's not about sexuality, though? It's about gender identity.

[(Anonymous)]

Shiloh is a child too young to be concerned about gender identity so...

[(Anonymous)]

This x100. I find it so creepy that people are speculating the gender identity and sexuality of a small child. What, just because she's a tomboy who likes to be called "John", people assume she's trans and refer to her as "he"? FFS she's a small child whose life has nothing to do with you. Stop giving her all these labels before she's even entered school. >_>

[(Anonymous)]

Are you fucking kidding me? Try being a trans kid and tell me again that kids don't deeply think/feel this stuff. Yes, cis kids too, it's just that no one is telling them they're wrong.

[herongale]

Ugh, this kind of reasoning is so infuriatingly anti-scientific and anti-commonsense.

Basically, children are being taught about their own gender identity since they are born. If a child feels out of sync with the gender identity they've been assigned, they will often notice it and feel it at a very young age. They might not have the words for it yet, especially if they are raised in an environment where gender essentialism is so ingrained and expected that no one even thinks about the possibility that a child may be transgendered, but it's not at all uncommon for this to become an issue FOR THE CHILD at a very young age.

So, in many respects it just doesn't matter if adults don't think a child is old enough to be concerned about their own gender identity. If the child is concerned about it, their concerns are valid, and should not be brushed away with someone being all "you're too young to worry about this; no go along and play with your dolls" mentality.

Because you know what? Eventually "too young" becomes "too old" and the same people who say that a child is too young to worry about such adult things will be baffled and annoyed at adults who express concerns about their own gender identities, saying things like "if it were such an issue, wouldn't you have noticed it a long time ago?" People just can't win.

What age is the "right age?" The only proper answer to this is "whenever the individual in question thinks its an issue." I think if you were saying "Shiloh is too young for ABSOLUTE STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET to be wondering about her gender identity," I'd probably agree with you. But for she herself? If she cares, then she's not too young. End of story.

[(Anonymous)]

All this reminds me of is that shitty tumblr post about the mom talking about how her (toddler, if I remember correctly) son is ~tots genderqueer~ because he likes playing with "girl things" and "boy things", and refers to himself as a "girl" when he's playing with "girl" things.

Yeah, no fucking shit he calls himself a "girl", you keep talking about toys and activities as "girl" things, and he's going to believe he has to be a girl to like those things! He's not necessarily genderqueer, he just likes toys.

/rant

because seriously, this kid? Is seven. And their gender identity? Is none of your business. (And why are you making that assumption anyway, is it because of her clothing choices?)

[dreemyweird]

+1
It's really not how it works. For my entire childhood I've often talked about myself using the opposite gender and third person. I'm afraid to think as to what might be derived from this fact. [bonus: I still do this occasionally]

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't see that, and I'm glad I didn't. My kid is 6 and plays with ponies and superheroes and transformers and puzzles and whatever else she feels like. When other kids give her shit she tells them "there's no such thing as girl toys or boy toys, just toys."

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, all we really have is tabloid mutterings and whispers that Shiloh identifies as a boy, but we really have no proof that I know of. (unless I missed where Brad or Angelina said specifically, 'Shiloh is our son.') I think the OP is saying they're happy Brad and Angelina are supportive of Shiloh, but right now all I've really seen from magazines/gossip crap is blasting the poor kid for dressing 'boyish' (oh no, a girl with board shorts and short hair! Call the cops) and B&A don't care what Shiloh wears. If Shiloh is transgendered, I say awesome on him for being able to come out and say it at such a young age and have great support from his folks, but right now, it's not even know, and paparazzi need to back the hell off on a seven year old kid.

[(Anonymous)]

I was similar, although it was mostly my brother that referred to me as a boy. I had clothes and toys for both genders, but I always preferred more masculine items. It was never a problem, I was never told which things are boy stuff and which ones are girl stuff. Even my conservative grandfather gave me a toolbox as a present once.

It wouldn't even occur to me to think of myself as anything other than a girl, until I started going through puberty and I suddenly gained all these new features I didn't want and couldn't hide, everyone around me gained new interests, boys and girls stopped hanging out with each other, and it suddenly started to matter what's between a person's legs. I still enjoyed crossdressing and 'roleplaying' a guy. For a very long time I thought I'm a transman and it was only after giving it a lot of thought and accepting genderqueerness as a valid identity that I started identifying as this.

But really I just wish I could go back to the time I didn't have to identify as anything and I could just be myself. If someone tried to force an identity on me in childhood, I'd probably grow up to hate it.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, God, THIS!

The mom is so oblivious how sexist she is that it's hair pulling irritating. And then all the little SJWs are applauding over how a good mother she is. NO, she's a horrible mother. How un-self aware can you be.

Also, the kid is a little child. Having been around little children let me say that kids that age dabble in a bit of everything. Especially depending on what sort of peer group they are in. If a boy is with a bunch girls and the girls are playing princess, guess what, so will the boy. And if a girl is with a bunch of boys and they are playing with trucks, the girl will do it too. Because that's how kids that age play. They aren't into gender specific play yet. That's years away when are influence by older peers, popular media and adult behavior.

[(Anonymous)]

I made absolutely zero assumptions. In fact, I did the exact opposite of making assumptipns by saying "I don't know if ... or..."

And my point which apparently was lost was that regardless, its so awesome to see Shiloh living on her terms and having parents willing to let her express herself however she wants (and personally I'd be just as happy if @hiloh is a girl who gives no fucks, because that's how I am, bit I'm acknowledging trans possibilities based on intervoew Angelina has given where she says Shiloh wants to be a boy and Brad haas saod she wantes to be called Peter. I don't take it as gospel though because it's through other people and Shiloh is si young.

[(Anonymous)]

I had a very short period where I tried be a boy. I can't for the life of me remember why, but it's not unusual for kids to do these things.

[tabaqui]

I am utterly baffled. But then, i have no fucking clue who this kid is beyond 'one of the Brangelina brood'.

Oh dear fucking god

[chardmonster]

A LITTLE GIRL WHO HAPPENS TO WEAR CERTAIN HATS AND PANTS IS NOT AUTOMATICALLY TRANS

FOR FUCK'S SAKE

THIS DOESN'T MAKE YOU PROGRESSIVE IT JUST MAKES YOU ANNOYING

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I find myself stupidly invested or interested in discussions on this, and really pleased with how her parents are reacting. Good for them!

[diet_poison]

The font would have worked really well if there were spaces between the letters, because it was kind of hard to read. It looked pretty cool, though.

STUPID

[(Anonymous)]

Some little girls aren't crazy about dresses. You don't have to fucking love dresses to be and identify as a girl. Jesus motherfucking christ.

[(Anonymous)]

Way too many are stupidly emotionally invested in the Jolie-Pitt kids, from what I've observed cooing over the twins' losing baby teeth to Zahara's hair to Maddox's "coolness." I find it kinda creepy.

[(Anonymous)]

hmm, the possibility for wank... NOPE I'M OUT. *FLIES AWAY*

[(Anonymous)]

I like the way you think. I think that all their kids are being raised well and definitely not into restricted genres of any kind which for me is ideal.