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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-06 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2469 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2469 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
All this reminds me of is that shitty tumblr post about the mom talking about how her (toddler, if I remember correctly) son is ~tots genderqueer~ because he likes playing with "girl things" and "boy things", and refers to himself as a "girl" when he's playing with "girl" things.

Yeah, no fucking shit he calls himself a "girl", you keep talking about toys and activities as "girl" things, and he's going to believe he has to be a girl to like those things! He's not necessarily genderqueer, he just likes toys.

/rant

because seriously, this kid? Is seven. And their gender identity? Is none of your business. (And why are you making that assumption anyway, is it because of her clothing choices?)
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-10-06 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
+1
It's really not how it works. For my entire childhood I've often talked about myself using the opposite gender and third person. I'm afraid to think as to what might be derived from this fact. [bonus: I still do this occasionally]

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't see that, and I'm glad I didn't. My kid is 6 and plays with ponies and superheroes and transformers and puzzles and whatever else she feels like. When other kids give her shit she tells them "there's no such thing as girl toys or boy toys, just toys."
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[personal profile] queerwolf 2013-10-06 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
You have a good kid and should be proud :)

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I am. She's pretty awesome.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-10-06 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
<3
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-06 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
:) that's awesome

This graphic pretty much says it all (preaching to the choir here obviously, but it's an awesome graphic so I wanted to share):

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-07 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Awesome, graphic! But shouldn't it be "for both girls and boys," not "either girls or boys." Either/or makes it sound like there should be a gender distinction.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-10-07 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
*headtilt* I don't really see that much difference there. I think that's getting kind of pedantic.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Good on you and good for her. That's awesome.
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[personal profile] meishuu 2013-10-07 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
Your kid is awesome <3

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, all we really have is tabloid mutterings and whispers that Shiloh identifies as a boy, but we really have no proof that I know of. (unless I missed where Brad or Angelina said specifically, 'Shiloh is our son.') I think the OP is saying they're happy Brad and Angelina are supportive of Shiloh, but right now all I've really seen from magazines/gossip crap is blasting the poor kid for dressing 'boyish' (oh no, a girl with board shorts and short hair! Call the cops) and B&A don't care what Shiloh wears. If Shiloh is transgendered, I say awesome on him for being able to come out and say it at such a young age and have great support from his folks, but right now, it's not even know, and paparazzi need to back the hell off on a seven year old kid.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I was similar, although it was mostly my brother that referred to me as a boy. I had clothes and toys for both genders, but I always preferred more masculine items. It was never a problem, I was never told which things are boy stuff and which ones are girl stuff. Even my conservative grandfather gave me a toolbox as a present once.

It wouldn't even occur to me to think of myself as anything other than a girl, until I started going through puberty and I suddenly gained all these new features I didn't want and couldn't hide, everyone around me gained new interests, boys and girls stopped hanging out with each other, and it suddenly started to matter what's between a person's legs. I still enjoyed crossdressing and 'roleplaying' a guy. For a very long time I thought I'm a transman and it was only after giving it a lot of thought and accepting genderqueerness as a valid identity that I started identifying as this.

But really I just wish I could go back to the time I didn't have to identify as anything and I could just be myself. If someone tried to force an identity on me in childhood, I'd probably grow up to hate it.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, God, THIS!

The mom is so oblivious how sexist she is that it's hair pulling irritating. And then all the little SJWs are applauding over how a good mother she is. NO, she's a horrible mother. How un-self aware can you be.

Also, the kid is a little child. Having been around little children let me say that kids that age dabble in a bit of everything. Especially depending on what sort of peer group they are in. If a boy is with a bunch girls and the girls are playing princess, guess what, so will the boy. And if a girl is with a bunch of boys and they are playing with trucks, the girl will do it too. Because that's how kids that age play. They aren't into gender specific play yet. That's years away when are influence by older peers, popular media and adult behavior.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I made absolutely zero assumptions. In fact, I did the exact opposite of making assumptipns by saying "I don't know if ... or..."

And my point which apparently was lost was that regardless, its so awesome to see Shiloh living on her terms and having parents willing to let her express herself however she wants (and personally I'd be just as happy if @hiloh is a girl who gives no fucks, because that's how I am, bit I'm acknowledging trans possibilities based on intervoew Angelina has given where she says Shiloh wants to be a boy and Brad haas saod she wantes to be called Peter. I don't take it as gospel though because it's through other people and Shiloh is si young.

SA and OP

(Anonymous) 2013-10-06 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry for typos. I'm on my phone.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-07 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I had a very short period where I tried be a boy. I can't for the life of me remember why, but it's not unusual for kids to do these things.