[ SECRET POST #2469 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2469 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Newbie to fandom with questions

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's a question of owing them respect or anything. It's more that there's just no productive way to approach them that isn't just flaming them. Nothing good will come out of engaging with them, you know? Some people on the Internet are just assholes, and there's not that much you can do about it. You can try to do something, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing to call someone out on their BS. But there's a point at which you just have a choice between getting invested and tangled up in it, or ignoring it and living your life. And I think the second choice is ultimately a lot better.

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

*nod*

That does sound like the easier option to ignore them.

The way the fandom friend described it...she made it sound as if anything but 'respect' for the critics (especially when it's her) is 'entitled'. The other fandom friends were very helpful but this one just seemed to say "you're wrong and the reviewer is probably right" . I'm kind of afraid to show her anything I write because she'll expect me to make the change.

How do you say no if someone suggests a change to the story that you don't think fits?

sorry for all my questions.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Thank them for the input, but that you have things planned out and their idea doesn't fit into what you already have planned.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Start with, "Thanks for your advice! I really appreciate it!"

Then (you might) say something to the effect of, "While I think X is a really good idea,..."

possible ends to that sentence:
I don't feel like it matches this fic.
I don't feel comfortable writing X at this time.
I'd rather use it in another fic that I'm working on, if you don't mind. (If you say this, you don't actually have to mean it... or even have a second fic in the wings.)

And end with, "You're an amazing beta reader/whatever. I really, really appreciate this. Thanks so much for all of your time/effort!"

And then do whatever it is that you want to do. Because, at the end of the day, it's your fic and you don't have to change or write anything for anyone.

Also? Can I give you an unsolicited tip? It's a LOT easier to deal with people demanding this change or that development if you've already got the fic entirely planned out from start to finish and either mostly or entirely written before you start posting it.

Re: AYRT

[hwc]

For starters, don't ask that particular friend to beta for you. If she reviews with stuff she didn't like/expects you to change sweep it under the rug either by focusing on other parts of the review or just go with what the anons above suggested. Generally speaking there's nothing wrong with engaging reviewers in conversation, sometimes you get great discussions about characterization or plot development, but at the end of the day it's your fic and you don't have to accommodate anyone but yourself - that goes for reviewers and beta readers.

How long has your friend been in fandom? "You're wrong and the reviewer is probably right" is an out-dated notion that was prevalent during that phase where writers were supposed to feel grateful for any and all feedback, including flames.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

*nod* I have other people to beta

I think a bit longer than me. When I got into fandom she was very intent on telling me "how to 'do' fandom right". *shrug*

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

... I would take this person's advice with a huge grain of salt. Anyone who's that intent on lecturing you about the Do's and Don'ts of fandom sounds like someone who's in love with the sound of her own typing.