[ SECRET POST #2471 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2471 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

OK, I'm not in this fandom so I could be missing something here, but I do think there are a lot of ships that are only considered "delusional" because both characters are the same sex, even though if one of them was the opposite gender the ship would probably already be canon. In that sense, it is somewhat unfair to accuse anyone who sees homoerotic subtext being "delusional". (Although on the other hand it is also unlikely for homoerotic subtext to turn into canon gay pairings, which is unfortunate, but no amount of tinhatting will change that fact.)

[(Anonymous)]

While probably an unfair generalization, a lot of Destiel fans are notorious for believing their ship *will be* canon, so it's less a celebration of the subtext or shipping just to ship, and more an insistence that the ship is going to be canon or is already "more" canon than other slash pairings.

Obviously there are Destiel fans who are not functioning under this belief, so it's unfair to them! But I'd consider anybody who ships something under the above criteria to be delusional, tbh. Destiel fans just have a loud bunch of these type of shippers.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

As a passive Destiel shipper (meaning I'm not active in the fandom, but I remain sentimentally fond of the pairing) who is firmly of the variety who does not believe it would ever become canon, the shippers who insist that just make me laugh and occasionally facepalm.

[(Anonymous)]

There's my problem with shippers of the pairing. They always act like it's so much more legit than even the canon pairings on the show. Eh, the crazy shippers, that is. It just happens that those are the ones I see (outside of the SPN fandom space).

[(Anonymous)]

It's true. I don't think it applies here, but I think that's true in a general sense.

[(Anonymous)]

This is exactly my criteria for determining whether there is subtext between two same-sex characters: if you switched the gender of one of the characters, would everyone think the ship was canon/should be canon?

If the answer is 'yes,' then there is most definitely subtext.

[(Anonymous)]

Late reply, but whatever--

But genders aren't just interchangeable, and the dynamic between two men is/can be different from the dynamic between a man and a woman. Not that that's not a good sniff test for subtext, I'm just saying.

[(Anonymous)]

Generally, it's not the pairing so much as the fans of the pairing that are considered deluded, and for reasons other than just shipping it. Destiel shippers are not inherently deluded. Destiel shippers who honestly insist (rather than making tongue-in-cheek jokes) that their ship is currently canon, or is absolutely going to become canon, are.

Unfortunately, the latter category of Destiel shippers, while not actually any more numerous than the former, are much louder, and tend to take any opportunity to either extoll the virtues of their ship, or rail against non-shippers. This makes them a lot more visible, which makes them the default in the minds of non-shippers. The same thing's happened with other pairings in other fandoms, both slash or femslash (Swan Queen), and het (Zutara).