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I know what people mean when they talk about sissies and nancyboys, too. Doesn't mean they aren't offensive terms.

Why would a term (I used to describe myself) which just means a girl who does traditionally boy stuff have the same connotations as sissy (I have never heard anyone use nancyboy). Hell, I know people who describes themselves as sissies (my sister does).

Whatever, I guess if you like reinforcing the idea that such things are so meant for boys that when a girl does them she needs a special term, more power to you.

Yes. Exactly. That was my meaning. Not, "Boy. I want an easy term to reply to this comment that will quickly convey my meaning." Which actually worked because you understood what I was trying to say. So kudos to me.

"How you meant it" and whether it was understood means jackshit qhen the effect is still a reinforcement of hurtful gender roles.

Okay well. I was using it to describe myself. I don't consider it to be a negative word. I have never thought of being a tomboy to be more negative or positive than my sisters who were not tomboys. It is just what I am. And considering it is my descriptor for myself, I can call myself whatever I want.

To whom?

Some words wind up being very far removed from their original connotation, whatever that was. I'll be the first to get upset when a word or phrase implies that masculinity is "better" or "more speshul" but I simply never got that sense from "tomboy". I did have internalized prejudices, and maybe I still do, but that word just meant "girl who has some or many boyish traits". Any speshul-snowflakey-ness I got from it was from being a 10 year old kid who thought I was super special because I was different.

that word just meant "girl who has some or many boyish traits

But that's the thing: Why is it "boyish" to climb trees or play Army, or go hunting? It's not. These are perfectly valid things for girls to do, and the reason I hate "tomboy" every time I hear it is because it's a word that says "you're doing *~boy~* things, take this label!" When, no. I'm not doing BOY things. I'm just doing things.

I mean I definitely agree with you on that (about those not being ~boy~ things). But many people still define them as such, language isn't perfect, and it's just sort of a catch-all term to describe a certain personality type/set of interests. It's also useful when talking about children and gender roles.

I'm glad you pointed all this out though. It's given me something to think about :)

you're going to just keep treating the world like it sins every time it doesn't conform to your expectations.

Yeah, you're fixing the world, one pointless argument at a time!

Keep at it kid.

..."tomboy" is offensive now?

Since when?

I was one myself once too...never got shit for using that word

Since right now apparently.

I never said "everyone" is offended by it. I said I hated that term, and I've already said why.

...And your personal opinion on a word is so much more important than anyone else's because?

Get over yourself.

This is like, the internet, where OMG WOW, people have conversations and talk about things that are important to them.

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