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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-08 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2471 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2471 ⌋

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[personal profile] bigredhug 2013-10-09 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure Lowtax has explicitly said he puts LP under the paywall more often to keep the Dangan Ronpa thread shenanigans at bay/to troll people who complain about it. If that doesn't sit well with you then SA is indeed probably not the place for you

(Anonymous) 2013-10-09 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
It's kind of baffling. When the paywall's down, non-SA users have no reason to sign up and join in on the thread -- they'll just keep talking about it on Tumblr or whatever other social site they prefer, and the SAers can just ignore them. But when the paywall's up, fans who haven't found a mirror site get the urge to join. And then 'pollute' the thread with their non-SA-approved posting style. Blocking the non-'goons' out just encourages them to bring all their annoyance right into the faces of everyone in SA.

(The secret, of course, is that it's about money. Encouraging Dangan Ronpa fans to join, and buy avatars, and then get banned, and then pay to rejoin -- Lowtax has found a gold mine. And he doesn't even have to work for it -- it's all the work of Spike/Chunsoft (creators of the game) and orenronren and Fedule (who are translating it), none of whom see a dime for their efforts.)

(Anonymous) 2013-10-09 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
It's not really a secret, lowtax/SA is pretty up front about that

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2013-10-09 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but someone really needs to tell the goons. Despite it all they still insist on believing that the subscription fees are just a formality to keep out the riff-raff and get a better quality of discourse. Seriously. I guess once you've bought into the system, you're inclined to defend it. (And anyone with a reasonable argument against them won't generally be paying to get into their bubble in the first place, so most of the counterarguments they hear are from the people foolish enough to pay money to join a site they dislike.)

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2013-10-09 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of goons know it's about money, though? Avatars and the quality-of-life stuff is all pay. However, it doesn't make the pay system any less beneficial to regular posters, though, because it *does* cut back on terrible posters.

And let's be honest, Lowtax's strategy only works if those posters are doing things that are banworthy. So, seriously, all they have to do is not be shitheels.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2013-10-09 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
Thing is, there's quite a few popular message boards that have quality of posting equal to or (often) greater than SA's based on the strength of nothing more than solid moderation. And conversely, there's entire boards of SA that I'd barely even dare to glance at due to their intense horribleness. (And that's just the ones I can see, as a non-subscriber -- I've heard that some of the worst are made completely invisible to the outside.)

And unfortunately, 'banworthy' is entirely in the eyes of SA's moderators, many of whom are... less than consistent. Or who have their own axes to grind. (Witness the infamous case of the one who threw a fit when someone had the temerity to use a bit of anime jargon on the DR thread -- banning that user and then putting up the paywall for months specifically to lock that person out. The mods and users are apparently very sensitive to being considered the wrong kind of nerd in their thread about translating an anime-styled Japanese murder mystery game...)