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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-10 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2473 ]


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[personal profile] fleshisyummy 2013-10-11 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Well, certain books are considered more "mature" than other books. I know this example has been done to death, but Twilight is considered an immature book. That said, there are ~trashy~ books that I've liked because they are a form of self-indulgent escapism and wish fulfillment, and I've read books that are considered great literature that I've spent hours analyzing and discussing that have broadened my worldview.

I just find it funny that the OP is saying they feel more mature for liking het and gen over slash when none of them are super "mature." Even if someone's writing a fic about a canon het couple, they're probably injecting more romance or introspection of the relationship than was in the canon because they like that couple. A lot of gen is "fix fic" for parts of canon they didn't like or it involves exploring a different scenario or exploring a character that got shafted in canon. A lot of it is escapism and wish fulfillment and kind of childish, and that's why I like it.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-11 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
My argument was that a whole lot of adults do this thing. Why are you defining it as a 'childish thing' when it is not 'something mostly done by children'?
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[personal profile] fleshisyummy 2013-10-11 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Well, fandom isn't an exclusively adult thing either. A lot teens and young adults are involved in it as well.

That said, I've always seen "childish" as something that's kind of silly and uninhibited, and I feel like fandom sort of epitomizes that.

Even though I'm an adult who likes fanfiction, I really don't consider fanfiction to be all that mature or adult-like.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-11 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Do you see books and reading in general as a childish or immature hobby? Or do you see hobbies in general as childish?
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[personal profile] fleshisyummy 2013-10-11 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I see some of my hobbies as being more childish than others. I personally don't see anything wrong with that, though.

I don't see reading books as inherently childish because it's not really a carefree thing for me like fanfiction is. Maybe it is for some people. Different strokes and all that.
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[personal profile] clawdine 2013-10-13 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I know this is a few days old, but I've read some very thought-provoking, adult stories in fandom. Also it depends on your fandom -- some fanfiction authors are published, and no, not the 50 Shades type either :)

(Anonymous) 2013-10-11 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Escapism and will fulfillment is a whole lot of porn and erotica, too. And nobody says that porn or erotic novels are childish. If they had added some more heaving bosoms and throbbing manhoods to Twilight it'd suddenly be an adult romance novel for women instead of girls and nothing else would have to change. Escapism and fantasy is absolutely not a child-dominated area
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[personal profile] fleshisyummy 2013-10-11 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't really mean it in a child-dominated sense, though. I meant it more in a carefree and uninhibited way.

(Anonymous) 2013-10-11 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
But why do you consider fanfiction immature? It's just writing/reading. Sure there are types of fic that are less mature than others, like you said with books, but generally speaking I don't see fic as childish.
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[personal profile] fleshisyummy 2013-10-11 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I probably shouldn't have used the word immature because it has negative connotations, but it has always seemed kind of child-like and carefree to me /personally/ because it has always been sort of just silly and fun to me. Other people here apparently feel differently, though.