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⌈ Secret Post #2473 ⌋

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Comments

[kaijinscendre]

Why not? I don't really consider it any different that reading a book.

[(Anonymous)]

Whenever someone says something isn't an adult thing to do, I immediately think it makes them sound childish, or at least very young. Once you are an adult you realize adults are just children in bigger bodies with credit cards who are flailing around still trying to figure shit out and we're all way more immature than we're 'supposed' to be, lol

[(Anonymous)]

Same here.

[kaijinscendre]

I read fanfic to decompress from a long, awful day at work. To forget about my $20,000 in student loans and to stop worrying about how I am going to pay my bills.

[queerwolf]

This

[ninety6tears]

This is such a good comment.

[sarastark]

Yes! I always assumed as an adult I would understand grown up things. Now I'm a 32 year old mom with 1 1/2 kids, a grown up job, and a husband and I still feel like I'm playing house. I've even started wearing pearls when I clean so it feels more like a game than work. :)

And if I want to unwind after the kiddo goes to bed with some fanfic, who does it hurt?

[(Anonymous)]

How very Donna Reed of you ;)

[(Anonymous)]

Excellent comment.

[(Anonymous)]

So very true, well said.

And this C.S. Lewis quote also applies here, too:
"Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."

[cakemage]

I was wondering if someone would quote C.S. Lewis here. Thank you for saving me the trouble of doing it myself!

[fleshisyummy]

I didn't say it was a bad thing that it wasn't adult-like? That's why I like fanfic. I get to act more like a kid. When I'm at work talking to people who are much older than me, it's kind of taxing because I feel like I kind of have to put up a front of maturity.

When I read and write fanfic, I get to be more childish and silly than I have to appear IRL.

[(Anonymous)]

I mentioned nothing about good or bad in my comment.

Those people who are much older than you probably daydream about being Superman, too.

You sound very young.

[fleshisyummy]

You're right. I am young.

I just thought you were annoyed by comment, so I was trying to articulate my point better.

[electromouse]

Yeah, this was my experience with transitioning from teen to adulthood. I was terrified becauase I thought I was going to go through some sort of personality change but nope, still the same just with more responsibilities and still figuring shit out.

[fleshisyummy]

Well, certain books are considered more "mature" than other books. I know this example has been done to death, but Twilight is considered an immature book. That said, there are ~trashy~ books that I've liked because they are a form of self-indulgent escapism and wish fulfillment, and I've read books that are considered great literature that I've spent hours analyzing and discussing that have broadened my worldview.

I just find it funny that the OP is saying they feel more mature for liking het and gen over slash when none of them are super "mature." Even if someone's writing a fic about a canon het couple, they're probably injecting more romance or introspection of the relationship than was in the canon because they like that couple. A lot of gen is "fix fic" for parts of canon they didn't like or it involves exploring a different scenario or exploring a character that got shafted in canon. A lot of it is escapism and wish fulfillment and kind of childish, and that's why I like it.

[(Anonymous)]

My argument was that a whole lot of adults do this thing. Why are you defining it as a 'childish thing' when it is not 'something mostly done by children'?

[fleshisyummy]

Well, fandom isn't an exclusively adult thing either. A lot teens and young adults are involved in it as well.

That said, I've always seen "childish" as something that's kind of silly and uninhibited, and I feel like fandom sort of epitomizes that.

Even though I'm an adult who likes fanfiction, I really don't consider fanfiction to be all that mature or adult-like.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you see books and reading in general as a childish or immature hobby? Or do you see hobbies in general as childish?

[fleshisyummy]

Well, I see some of my hobbies as being more childish than others. I personally don't see anything wrong with that, though.

I don't see reading books as inherently childish because it's not really a carefree thing for me like fanfiction is. Maybe it is for some people. Different strokes and all that.

[clawdine]

I know this is a few days old, but I've read some very thought-provoking, adult stories in fandom. Also it depends on your fandom -- some fanfiction authors are published, and no, not the 50 Shades type either :)

[(Anonymous)]

Escapism and will fulfillment is a whole lot of porn and erotica, too. And nobody says that porn or erotic novels are childish. If they had added some more heaving bosoms and throbbing manhoods to Twilight it'd suddenly be an adult romance novel for women instead of girls and nothing else would have to change. Escapism and fantasy is absolutely not a child-dominated area

[fleshisyummy]

I didn't really mean it in a child-dominated sense, though. I meant it more in a carefree and uninhibited way.

[(Anonymous)]

But why do you consider fanfiction immature? It's just writing/reading. Sure there are types of fic that are less mature than others, like you said with books, but generally speaking I don't see fic as childish.

[fleshisyummy]

I probably shouldn't have used the word immature because it has negative connotations, but it has always seemed kind of child-like and carefree to me /personally/ because it has always been sort of just silly and fun to me. Other people here apparently feel differently, though.