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⌈ Secret Post #2473 ⌋

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Comments

[fleshisyummy]

At the end of the day, reading fanfic isn't really adult-like or mature regardless of what you're reading.

[(Anonymous)]

...why not?

Plenty of us in fandom are adults who like fanfic. As fandom ages there are likely to be more adults reading/writing fanfic than there are minors. Most of dedicated fic readers and writers seems to fall between 18-30 years of age.

Define adult.

[fleshisyummy]

Lol. Damn. I didn't think people would get so defensive about this.

I thought that was the whole appeal of fandom/fanfiction? It's fun and kind of childish and a form of escapism. I think people misinterpreted what I said. I love reading and writing fanfic! And one of the reasons is that is allows me to get away from work and school and other things at least for a little while.

[(Anonymous)]

anon doesn't seem defensive. They made a reasonable comment and asked you a reasonable question.

[(Anonymous)]

Recreation isn't childish, and adults are allowed to have hobbies other than gardening and scrapbooking without being any less "mature."

[kaijinscendre]

Why not? I don't really consider it any different that reading a book.

[(Anonymous)]

Whenever someone says something isn't an adult thing to do, I immediately think it makes them sound childish, or at least very young. Once you are an adult you realize adults are just children in bigger bodies with credit cards who are flailing around still trying to figure shit out and we're all way more immature than we're 'supposed' to be, lol

[(Anonymous)]

Same here.

[kaijinscendre]

I read fanfic to decompress from a long, awful day at work. To forget about my $20,000 in student loans and to stop worrying about how I am going to pay my bills.

[queerwolf]

This

[ninety6tears]

This is such a good comment.

[sarastark]

Yes! I always assumed as an adult I would understand grown up things. Now I'm a 32 year old mom with 1 1/2 kids, a grown up job, and a husband and I still feel like I'm playing house. I've even started wearing pearls when I clean so it feels more like a game than work. :)

And if I want to unwind after the kiddo goes to bed with some fanfic, who does it hurt?

[(Anonymous)]

Excellent comment.

[(Anonymous)]

So very true, well said.

And this C.S. Lewis quote also applies here, too:
"Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."

[fleshisyummy]

I didn't say it was a bad thing that it wasn't adult-like? That's why I like fanfic. I get to act more like a kid. When I'm at work talking to people who are much older than me, it's kind of taxing because I feel like I kind of have to put up a front of maturity.

When I read and write fanfic, I get to be more childish and silly than I have to appear IRL.

[electromouse]

Yeah, this was my experience with transitioning from teen to adulthood. I was terrified becauase I thought I was going to go through some sort of personality change but nope, still the same just with more responsibilities and still figuring shit out.

[fleshisyummy]

Well, certain books are considered more "mature" than other books. I know this example has been done to death, but Twilight is considered an immature book. That said, there are ~trashy~ books that I've liked because they are a form of self-indulgent escapism and wish fulfillment, and I've read books that are considered great literature that I've spent hours analyzing and discussing that have broadened my worldview.

I just find it funny that the OP is saying they feel more mature for liking het and gen over slash when none of them are super "mature." Even if someone's writing a fic about a canon het couple, they're probably injecting more romance or introspection of the relationship than was in the canon because they like that couple. A lot of gen is "fix fic" for parts of canon they didn't like or it involves exploring a different scenario or exploring a character that got shafted in canon. A lot of it is escapism and wish fulfillment and kind of childish, and that's why I like it.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not that different from reading comic books or books in general. It's just something else to read, I feel.

[starphotographs]

I think it's maturity-neutral, like most hobbies. There are people twice my age who have been interested in fanfiction for as long as I've been alive or longer.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know about you, but I always read fic while holding a snifter of brandy and sitting in a leather chair in a library.

[dazzledfirestar]

I prefer scotch that is likely older than the writer, myself.

[fleshisyummy]

Man, you are really hung-up on the fact that I have a Lelouch icon, huh?

[(Anonymous)]

Lol what are you? 20?

[(Anonymous)]

So if I were reading published works, would that be more 'adult'? Or is all reading 'childish'.

Because a plethora of the fanfic I've enjoyed outshines much of the published fiction I've read. Why is one less valid than the other? Is it the 'legitimacy' of being published that makes the difference?

I also crochet and paint and draw and sculpt and decorate cakes. Are those hobbies less mature or adult-like if the stuff I create is fandom related?