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[ SECRET POST #2473 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2473 ⌋

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Given time and nutrition, your skin cells would stay skin cells. Given time and nutrition, the fetus would be writing this comment.

I'm all for a woman's right to choose, but let's call a spade a spade and not make ridiculous comparisons like this. Sometimes one human life has value over another--and in the case of an unwanted pregnancy, that's it.

Exactly, it would become a human in time. Abortion stops it from getting to that point. An embryo is no different than any other cells in your body.

It might, and it might not. Not all fetuses survive gestation and childbirth.

Tumblr is more than often a den of idiocy, but I like how this post presented it:

"Here’s a test:
I’m holding a baby in one hand and a petri dish holding an embryo in the other.
I’m going to drop one. You chose which.
If you really truly believe an embryo is the same thing as a baby, it should be impossible for you to decide. You should have to flip a coin, that’s how impossible the decision should be.
Shot in the dark, you saved the baby.
Because you’re aware there’s a difference.
Now admit it."

Honestly I would 50/50 it. Assuming the expectation that both would live to be 80 years old if saved, I consider neither sentient yet and completely dependent on the parents that would be caring for them. So they're effectively the same thing. I think around age 12 months I would start to favor the older kid. Or whatever the set age when self-awareness kicks in.

A tadpole is a frog. A caterpillar is a butterfly.

Which has nothing to do with the right to bodily autonomy. It is illegal and immoral to force a woman to carry a child to term against her will just as much as it would be to force her to donate blood or an organ even if it "saved a life". Because no one besides her has a right to her body.

OH, PHEW. I'm sorry. I was side-eyeing you so hard until you got to the last paragraph, and then I was really relieved.

Yes. For me, it amounts to an issue of the right to bodily autonomy. But the argument they were making in this particular thread was about human cells, so the quote was relevant to that, and that only.

I wish people talked more about bodily autonomy when making this discussions, tbh. It would be so much easier...

Yeah, it wasn't very well thought-out because I'm still a bit in shock at having to return to normal life. But my standard "not all life is created equal" argument makes me come off as one of those preachy vegetarians, and whenever I bring it up, starts two flamewars.

I remember seeing that on my Tumblr dash. Would you happen to have a link to a blog with a visible "click here to reblog" thing? (I always have to put in that stipulation because some blogs...yeesh!)

I'm a vegetarian who's only slightly preachy ;D (I try not to be, because I hate-hate-hate when omnivores preach to me, so I work on a "do not do to others what you wouldn't want done to you" system); you'd be safe with me. Though, yes, that kind of argument doesn't tend to jive well with a lot of people.

I'm afraid the OP of that tumblr post erased it :C I retrieved the quote via google. I know I have it somewhere on my own Tumblr, too, but to find it... I'm not the kind of person that EVER hits the post limit or anything, but looking for it would still be a pain, and it's past 3 am here. I apologize :(

http://the-gallium-knight.tumblr.com/post/47480939265/dear-anti-choice-assholes-on-my-campus

I know it's ridiculous, but so are the majority of anti-choicers (let's not call them pro-life if they don't care about the woman's life). And the only other comparison that came to mind was about how a beating heart doesn't necessarily prevent a living creature from being killed, but I didn't want to come off as one of those preachy vegetarians who starts flame wars everywhere she goes.

I like your style. Yes. We should NOT call them pro-lifers. If they cared about the mother, or the quality of life of the actual baby after it's born, THEN they would've earned that title. But they do not. When I've debated this issue in Spanish, I've only ever called them the equivalent of "anti-abortists", never "pro-lifers". That kind of people usually do not have an ounce of compassion on them. If they don't care about a fellow human being's life and dreams, only because she's a woman and therefore her rights matter less of the rights of an unborn human who doesn't even have the concept of a life project of its own... why would they care about cattle, or poultry?

I've been raised to believe abortion is wrong, and if the situation arose (though I really hope it never does), I doubt I would be able to go through with an abortion, but I can't believe that it's right to force someone to carry a child to term if they don't want to.

Uhm. Well, as I saw quoted in another thread, then... you're actually pro-choice. Because YOUR choice would be "to keep the baby", but despite thinking abortion is wrong, you acknowledge the different moral standings of others, their beliefs, and their needs - And most importantly: you wouldn't force your choice in other women. Which is not something the so-called "pro-life" (or "anti-abortion") movements do.

Given an egg to inseminate, a sperm might become a fetus.

Blow jobs are mass murder.

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