[ SECRET POST #2476 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2476 ⌋

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Comments

[lunabee34]

There's some truly excellent fanfic for this pairing, but you're not wrong about the preponderance of Xander's chocolate orbs and Spike saying "Oi, wot?" every five seconds--not to mention the proliferation of claiming and Xan pet and Xander's abusive daddy. You're also totally right about the volume of character bashing that gets put in pairings for this fic--most notably Buffy and Willow.

I say all this as someone who cut her fannish teeth on Spander, wrote Spander back in the day, and still considers it a fun pairing.

[tabaqui]

Totally agree. Some of the fic out there is *amazing*, some is awful...just like every other fandom. :)

[lunabee34]

*nods*

[hwc]

Pretty much this.

[lunabee34]

:)

[(Anonymous)]

--not to mention the proliferation of claiming and Xan pet and Xander's abusive daddy.

I was never really in BTVS/ATS fandoms, and I think this was maybe part of why. I don't know if the fandom in general was kinkier than I was used to, if I just wandered into some weird places on first try, or if it was just the canon kinkiness bleeding over (Spike/Buffy, Giles/Ethan, Wes/everyone, Angelus/everyone, Spike/Dru, etc), but BTVS/ATS was just more kink than I was able for at the time. Generally, I'm more for gen/fluff/emotion than kink.

Now I'm wondering if it really was as kinky as I remember, or if I did just wander somewhere weird.

[lunabee34]

I think it depends on what part of the fandom you tipped your toes into. There was a lot of BDSM in the fandom, but it mostly focused on the vampire characters and not everyone was writing it. Xander fic tended to not be kinky exactly but more boringly fixated on his daddy or Uncle Rory beating him up and raping him all the time and Spike had to save him. *pets poor Xander*

[(Anonymous)]

*thinks*

Isn't there a slight sub-genre having to do with Xander's summer side trip to Stripper Land? I seem to recall an inordinate amount of Spander centric fic set during that lost summer.

[lunabee34]

Yes! The cross country trip that ended up in the Fabulous Ladies Night Club in Oxnard.

There's also a subgenre of Xander being a sex slave (usually Spike or Angelus's).

Worst thing about this pairing

[(Anonymous)]

Is that it's the ONLY active Xander pairing in the Buffy fandom. You'll get the occasional het ships with him as background, and crossovers where he's paired with any and everybody, but the only consistently written pairing for Xander that I've seen is Spander. It's aggravating to someone who doesn't ship this, at all! Where is all the other slash? Xander/Riley, Xander/Oz, Xander/Graham, Xander/Andrew, hell, Xander/Angel(us)? It's even more popular than the canon pairings! Faith, Anya, Cordelia, still less than the Spike stuff.

Re: Worst thing about this pairing

[(Anonymous)]

In the early days of Buffy fandom I seem to recall a lot of Xander/Angel. Next to Spander, isn't that a fairly large sandbox?

Re: Worst thing about this pairing

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of Buffy fic was lost when sites like geo cities went under so there may have been (and I do remember a site with several Xander/Riley/Graham fics)more but there aren't any on the main ff archives anymore

Re: Worst thing about this pairing

[lunabee34]

It's much harder to find. I'm with you Nonnie.

I noticed last night when I was going through my recs, that I had a fair amount of recs for Xander paired with other people.

I don't have time to go through and pull out for you this morning. Here's the link to my recs: http://lunabee34.dreamwidth.org/tag/recs:+btvs

Be aware that the further back in time you go, the more dubious quality the fic recced might be. My tastes have changed over the years. :)