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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-16 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2479 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2479 ⌋

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Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-16 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole song is him saying I know you're just saying no so I won't think you're easy, not because you actually want to say no. Plus his comments about the song are even worse. He said it was a pleasure to get to degrade women because normally he has to be a good, married guy.
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Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-10-16 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
At what point did I say Thicke wasn't an asshole? I'm merely saying the song isn't rapey. It's kind of creepy and assholish. That is not the same as rapey

Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-16 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
except

it is rapey

Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-16 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
How is saying him saying he knows better than what the girl is telling him when it comes to consent not rapey?
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Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-10-16 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
When it comes in the context of him trying to convince her to sleep with him.

The entire point is that he has to convince her.

Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I think the criticism should be phrased as "Thicke is perpetuating rape culture". Much like people who say "she was asking for it" are not committing rape themselves, they're still contributing to incredibly unhealthy attitudes. I think that's what people mean when they say the song is "rapey"; they don't mean the guy in the song is an actual rapist, or intending to rape, but that his attitude is indicative of rape culture's influence. And we've all heard of the studies that showed that media and humor play a strong factor in how people perceived rape and its seriousness.

Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-16 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not how I understood it. I thought the whole thing was set out to be an over the top, almost satire version of music videos, and that a married man was a good person to do it because since he was happily married and respectful of his wife etc people would realise that these were not his actual views on women.

Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Uh. Yeah, I heard that bs before. In what way was it satirical or even over-the-top? And in what universe does a wedding ring automatically mean you are respectful of women and your behavior is beyond question?

Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, it looks pretty over the top to me. And apparently his wife and the female producer wanted him to do the topless version, so it wasn't an all male decision.

Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Because not possessing a y chromosome means you can't ever do, say, or encourage something harmful to women.

Re: How is Blurred Lines rapey?

(Anonymous) 2013-10-17 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously not, but then you get into the dilemma of who gets to define what is offensive. There are women who find the video offensive and a product of rape culture, and there are women both in the audience and involved in the production of the video who think it isn't.