[ SECRET POST #2479 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2479 ⌋

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Comments

[tabaqui]

Uh, there have been gods of all kinds on the show. Christianity is just one aspect of the Supernatural universe.

[anonymouslyyours]

There has kind of been a vibe of the one true god being the Christian god and the other gods playing at being gods and in that one ep a lot of pagan gods were easily defeated by an angel. But it been a long time since I watched the show and at no point would I ever argue it's even suggestive of Christian propaganda or whatever.

[tabaqui]

In the show, they basically explained that the other gods weren't as strong because they didn't have the number of believers that the Xian god/mythos did, so they didn't have as much powers.

Which, you know, wrong for Kali, but right for, say, Odin and random tree-fertility-sacrificial pagan deities. So belief=power, and Lucifer has every Xian believing in him *plus* every angel and ever demon, so, he has a lot of power. Not many people believe in or worship Loki anymore.

[anonymouslyyours]

Oh, either I didn't see that or forgot, sorry! *shakes fist* over Kali though.

Wait so official canon is all gods are golem tinkerbells? Did they ever explain why the gods aren't running around performing miracles and demanding worshippers?

[tabaqui]

I think because they're just too weak to do it. Their worshipers died off, so their power died off, so they can't *do* miracles anymore. At least, that's the kind of notion i get from it all. They didn't delve into it too much after those couple of episodes.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course, now that this thread has happened I wonder why Osiris was so powerful.

[(Anonymous)]

Theory: Egyptian mythology has a (I think) uniquely broad, enduring appeal even thousands of years after the old religion has essentially died out. The Pyramids and Sphinx, temples, mummies and artifacts are beautiful, mysterious, extraordinarily old and well-known throughout the world. Most people in the U.S. have at least seen a few Time-Life, National Geographic or History Channel specials on the subject, or been exposed to it through Hollywood, or even by the story of Moses leading the Israelites out of captivity.

As a result, Osiris (and possibly other Egyptian deities) may be able to drawn somewhat on the perennial public fascination with the subject, even if they're not technically being worshipped in the classic sense anymore (remember the Paris Hilton god? Nobody actually "worships" Abraham Lincoln or Ghandi as deities, but she made peoples' interest and admiration of them work for her.)

Also, if we take into account the idea of souls being power sources, the Egyptian pantheon had a very long time to stockpile them before their religion died, so they could still be drawing on that resource.

[(Anonymous)]

Good points! (As many scarily batshit people there are in this fandom, I still love that there are just as many who enjoy thinking about the mythology of it. (If only the writers belonged to this group...))

[(Anonymous)]

Well, and the pagan gods eat people. It's never been indicated the Christian god eats people.

I've decided to rationalize it as eating humans as a substitute for human belief, and the still-worshipped gods join in to be social.

[tabaqui]

Nope, Xians just eat *him* at communion. Heh.

[fingalsanteater]

I think Kali was still pretty powerful though, but I'm assuming not powerful enough to kill Lucifer which is why Gabriel begged her to leave.

[tabaqui]

She was. I wish she's beat Lucifer's ass down, left him for dead only he came back all weak and having to hide (like Voldemort!) or something. That would have been cool.

[(Anonymous)]

I get the impression that Lucifer was uber pumped with power at the time. The canon hardly ever paid attention to it but Lucifer's confrontation with Kali was right after all the seals had been broken in S4 and after he was going around killing off tens of thousands of people in the heartland etc. It always struck me as really weird that there was so little holdover from the public awareness of the failed apocalypse, tbh, because every once and a rare while it would be a huge deal.

But yeah. Lucifer killed off tens of thousands of people all at once in a really showy way and had his horsemen out and about. He had a LOT of people suddenly believing in him in a very real way. More belief = more power = able to take out Kali when normally she would have wiped the floor with him.

[tabaqui]

Yeah, i'd kind of forgotten that, but he did. They made some reference to it in later seasons but didn't really dwell on it, heh.

Yup - Kali would have trounced him if he hadn't been in a sort of 'ascendent' mode.