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⌈ Secret Post #2479 ⌋

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Comments

Re: vent about tumblr

[anonymouslyyours]

Why? Granted I haven't seen it used for a while but I thought it referred to that hokey feeling tragic backstory male protagonists are given to make them seem brooding, brow furrowing, and deep. Sort of what writers are trying to accomplish when they fridge women and whatnot.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

In other parts of the Internet its used differently. Like basically "loling at your mainpain".

Laughing at the pain of people you don't like seems to be a small trend in that circle. Then again I look at the bloggers who refer to others as "peasants" and I'm not surprised.

Re: vent about tumblr

[(Anonymous)]

Because I've never seen it associated with "hokey feelings" and I don't think we should be minimizing a person's pain (even a fictional person) and as if it shouldn't exist or means less just because they're men.

Re: vent about tumblr

[anonymouslyyours]

Well to me it still means eye-rolling cliched drama given to a white male lead just to make him seem deep, less one-dimensional, and justify his bloody vengeful behavior. But I am altogether familiar with the way people can take a word and bludgeon it beyond recognition on the internet (I'm looking at you 'troll'), so I'll take you at your word.

Re: vent about tumblr

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, gee. Don't do me any favors.

Re: vent about tumblr

[anonymouslyyours]

TOO LATE! FAVOR DONE!

OT but a question from a writer

[(Anonymous)]

I hope you don't mind me asking but....

I have a work that has a male protagonist being sort of a loner but , he not supposed to come off as 'deep and mysterious'. He's a bit awkward socially and he's afraid of getting close to people because of prior bullying. He is sort of close to two kids who he's friends with but he doesn't want to admit it to himself.

I don't don't want to come off that way, and I don't think I've fridged any characters ( people close to them do die because of the plot and the characters who die have their own back-stories and pasts that are delved into and make a part of the story and in both cases it's people of both genders , not just women.) I don't try to make him "mysterious and brow furrowing" he's actually intended to come off as a kid- a vulnerable kid- which is what he is. He handles his problems in awkward and realistically teenage ways. This is in a world where multiple characters have some skeletons in their closet (even the female ones)because there is a major conflict /sorta war going on.


How do I avoid "hokey tragic backstory"? I mean is my only hope to genderbend him?
I hope you don't mind me asking this but I just saw that and thought "oh geez I don't want to come across as shallow like that"

Re: OT but a question from a writer

[anonymouslyyours]

I was referring to blank slate stoic guys where they jam in some over the top trauma, usually at the expense of a woman, that results in nothing more than justifying a "good guy" going on a crazy murderous rampage and being kickass and then some hot woman oohs about how stoic he is and sleeps with him. Usually the hero's pain is treated as being so much more devastating than anyone else's pain. It's just not the kind of pain you overcome omg!

What you're describing doesn't really sound like that.

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Oh okay.I do find it annoying when the hero's pain is considered the only actual or "real" pain. That's really annoying.

Sorry for bothering you about this.

Re: AYRT

[anonymouslyyours]

It wasn't a bother. :) I mean I was a little like "Nooo, what do I know about things? Ugh stop opening your mouth AY. People think you think you know things!" but that's just because I'm kind of a goof.

My official opinion, for whatever it is worth, is that manpain is not the same as man experiencing pain.

Re: vent about tumblr

[(Anonymous)]

Same here; I mostly saw it used in X-Files fandom, and in my circles it gained popularity because an episode script literally described one of the Old White Dude consotium members as being "weighted down with the pain of being a man."

Re: vent about tumblr

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. 'Manpain' is used ironically, often in a comedy setting to poke fun at male-centric sentimentalism, whereas people using 'male tears' are usually 100% serious about it.