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⌈ Secret Post #2479 ⌋

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Comments

[ariakas]

I understood it the first time with the typos - go to bed ^^;

You've given me a lot to think on. I'm still not entirely sure I agree with you, but I'll give it some consideration. I doubt USian will catch on outside strongly liberal academic circles, but US American might. Ultimately, if you can convince people from the US to adopt the new terminology, obviously, I'll use it until then... I think a fair truce would be calling people from the US "Americans" if that's what they want to be called, but also calling people from other parts of the Americas "American" if they wish to be called that (though I don't understand what's offensive about "South/Central/North American"? "American", as mentioned, is offensive to Canadians, but "North American" is not).

Wouldn't be the first word to have two meanings. That way nobody's identity is being erased.

[lynx]

I promise I will go now. And... I'm sorry about losing my nerves back there, I was unpolite to you. Saying you've lost my respect... that wasn't cool.

I'm glad the discussion gave you something to mull over. Whether you end up agreeing or not, it was an excersize in critical thinking for both of us. It had been too long since I last debated anything (normally I avoid it, despite liking it, because I get anxious too easily; and it goes double if I'm not doing it in my mother language.) So I must thank you for the time and thoughts you dedicated to this. And I've been thinking a lot about possible solutions, precisely because I reckon now I was looking at the subject too much from my own perspective, indeed becoming closedminded myself.

I think I got it a little bit more when I realized that there had to be a suitable compromise, because if nobody budged, someone's identity would get pissed on. And it's shitty to erase another person's identity: Whether it was mine or of the hipotetical Person from the USA wasn't the point at all. It has to be something we agree on collectively, everything about my idea of "one single continent" had been at first about bringing people together, consensually.

(Having North/Central/South American is not offensive o/ But it's kind of divisionist.)

US-American is an agreeable compromise I think most people would be proclive to embrace if it gets more wide-spread. Sounds less radical-left than USian. It's just a matter of people don't forgetting to tack on the "US" in front of the "American" and all this wank it's solved.

Thank you for discussing this ideas with me. I can't say I had a lot of fun, but that's for family-related issues that have me constantly stressed. What I can say, is that it was definitively interesting, and got me to flex some mental muscles I had let grown complacent in recent times. So please, let me thank you, ok? :3

[ariakas]

N/P and thanks for the debate - it's hard to talk about things as emotionally-charged as identity politics. It's also understand someone coming from a place to diametrically opposed as to want to be included in a term you yourself find extremely offensive when applied to you. I'm definitely just as guilty as arguing from an emotionally-charged premise here -_-

(I don't think the North/South/Central descriptor is meant to be divisionist - it's just plate tectonics. The seven continent theory is taught in pretty well all English-speaking countries - despite how little sense the Europe/Asia distinction still makes - so that's why so many English speakers wonder 'why "American" and not "North/South/Central American"?' The six continent theory is largely alien to us.)

Though if it's fair to append South/North/Central to "American", it should be fair to append "US", I think.

Cheers, and have a good night!