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⌈ Secret Post #2481 ⌋

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[Star Trek, Sleepy Hollow, Elementary]

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[Junjou Romantica]

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07. [WARNING for suicide/self-harm]

[Slipknot]

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Look at it this way. The character being assaulted protested at the time of the incident. When someone says no during sex, you are supposed to stop; if you continue, it is rape. You are repulsive for continuing when your partner protested. If the victim later tells you they were okay with it, does that change the fact that you chose to continue? No. You made the decision to override their protest. You couldn't have read their mind at the time and known how they really felt, you only had the information that was expressly given to you -- which was that they didn't want it -- and you made your decision based on this information. You committed rape.

Technically Misaki only protested before the incident happened. Then he was surprised at himself at how good it felt, and was even no longer scared at Usami when it ended, just highly embarrased.

Also nice lecturing on rape, but if I decide that I was okay with it, then I was never a victim of rape, nor was the person I had sex with a rapist. What's the point of saying that rape is only non-consensual if you're going to dismiss my decisions on my own consent anyway if they don't fit your views?

The moment he protested is the moment it should have stopped. If at this point the victim changes his mind and wants to have sex, the other person still has to wait for consent to be clearly given before proceeding. Possibly he wasn't sure, he might have even wanted it, but from the rapist's POV, no consent was given. The decision made by the rapist is what repulses readers.

Implicit consent doesn't exist, people.
Also if you're talking Junjou specifically, Usami does tell Misaki (before the sex happens) to yell if he's against it, which Misaki is in no way impeded to do, and would have been entirely logical had it been a case of rape as you say. But Misaki doesn't, and not even out of fear or pressure, just of out of his own stubborness. Therefore you could say the decision wasn't entirely without clue on Usami's part, too bad people tend to forget that.

Right. So it was his stubbornness that was to blame. He didn't fight hard enough, so even though he said no it's invalid because he didn't meet the rapist's standard of spoken consent.

Classic victim blaming.

*facepalm*
Sometime I wonder if you people twist people's words intentionally. It's the only rational explanation.

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