[ SECRET POST #2486 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2486 ⌋

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Comments

[kaijinscendre]

Your life must be miserable. And I don't even mean that sarcastically. I can't imagine how awful it must be not to be able to love things.

[kallanda_lee]

MTA. Life must be hell. I have a friend who is triggered by all violence and all sex in visual media (I wish I were kidding). I like the woman, but dear lord, I'm so glad I'm not her.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a friend who is similar. Long history of abuse, with C-PTSD. She sticks to romance and fantasy novels.

[(Anonymous)]

Gosh, even romance and fantasy novels tend to have a lot of sex and violence, sometimes, unless they're written for kids. And even kids' literature can have some pretty dark stuff in it. Roald Dahl, anyone?

[(Anonymous)]

Not being able to enjoy problematic media =/= not being able to love things

[kaijinscendre]

But if they can't love things that have something problematic, that removes like...70% of shows/books/games/etc.

[(Anonymous)]

Shockingly, there is more to life than fandom or media.

[(Anonymous)]

Because in RL no one has to EVER deal with anything problematic, right?

[(Anonymous)]

mte. there's no such thing as something that's 100% unproblematic because life itself is problematic.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure how to explain the difference between problematic things in your hobby vs problematic things irl. But there is a difference. Annnd I'm done with this thread. Because I honestly think if you are arguing that not enjoying problematic media/fandom = not being able to love anything then you're just trolling and looking for a stupid argument.

[(Anonymous)]

Obviously, the above commenters are not referring to being unable to love anything that exists in the world, but to being unable to love fannish things.

Use your critical thinking skills.

[kaijinscendre]

But obviously it bothers anon if they go make a secret about it. And many friends bond over shared media (I know that is how I met several of mine). Also, while family and friends are great, I don't want to spend every moment of my life with them. Sometimes I just want to watch some TV and be alone.

[othellia]

70 percent? Try more like 99.9.

I have a RL friend who went down the path of SJW and there is literally nothing she doesn't find problematic anymore. We watched Madoka Magica a couple months ago and she ended up putting it on her shit list since the show implies at one point that the teenage girl demographic goes through the most volatile mood swings/depression/stress/etc.

In fact, she's not told me about single new show/book she's watched in the past year. Just SJW dealings and old stuff that she finds new problems with.

[kaijinscendre]

I was trying to be generous. :P I didn't want anyone to be like, "Where did you get that statistic?!?!?!!?"



But yeah it is closer to 90% at least.

[(Anonymous)]

Tangential, but I'll admit I did find that reasoning a little odd when I watched it (inasmuch that if I were from a race of beings that took emotional turmoil from humans and turned it into energy for my civilization I wouldn't limit it to a single demographic), but the show is a deconstruction of magical girls so I saw it as a handwave explanation as to why Kyubey is only targeting girls at the right age to become magical girls...

And I'm one of those people who will point out stuff that rubs me the wrong way in media if asked to, I just don't do it to the point where I can't enjoy anything because even though many things have lots of little problems I find on the whole they're pretty good. Perhaps that's just me.

[othellia]

Finding it odd is one thing. Taking a break from the whole series and continuously bringing it up over the next couple of days, only to finally finish the rest of the episodes and get stuck back on that one issue in the entire show is another. Not the characters, not that plot, not any other aspect. The fact that that one thing - which granted is kind of a keystone for the story - was problematic is the only thing she ended up talking about.

Okay, and Sayaka. She paid lip service to Sayaka for a couple minutes.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah that is kinda pushing it. I know have my odd hang-ups for certain shows but I'd like to think they're not that quibbling and that it's not the only reason I don't like said show.

Ah well, shame about your friend. Hopefully she'll mellow out.

[(Anonymous)]

I find almost everything I read/watch problematic in some way, even subtley. However, the threshold at which I refuse to engage anymore is way lower than it used to be, so I can like some really fucking dodgy stuff now (though other things just trigger my NOPE reflex).

Society is so drenched in kyriarchal assumptions about everything that it seems counterproductive to try to be "pure" about this stuff, we're ~all drenched in it, and the best thing to do is to question it and try to grow while getting the fuck on with life.

[(Anonymous)]

^ SA Er, threshold is way higher I mean.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, I tend to share OP's problem. Some stuff I can fairly easily ignore, but others really get on my nerves and decrease my enjoyment to the point where I just have to drop the fandom.

Since my triggers tend to be related to knowing too much about the actors or the writers or producers of a show/movie, I try to avoid hearing about the real life part of any show I am invested in. Unfortunately it turns out that too many of them are unpleasant weirdos.

eg: now that I understand better Moffat's hangups about women based on his interviews and reactions, I cannot un-see it and both Sherlock and Doctor Who are just ruined for me. Some episodes and plots which issues I just used to dismiss, hardly noticing their inherent problems, now raise my hackles and make me wonder if I even care to watch future episodes.

But the result is that I just am not in a happy space for these shows: it's a one-way street and the squee is just not there anymore.

PS: this is just used as an example, I am not trying to diss on either of these fandoms; I am glad they still bring entertainment to others.