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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-25 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2488 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2488 ⌋

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SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

(Anonymous) 2013-10-26 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Do you like the "long lost sibling" trope? I was told it was way too cliche, but I like it a lot (especially when the siblings actually knew and remember each other from before they were lost). What do you guys think?

Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

(Anonymous) 2013-10-26 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on context. I think I like it. At least, there's one case in which I like it.

Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

(Anonymous) 2013-10-26 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Not my thing, generally.

But I could get behind the whole one of them was kidnapped and years later is found thing, because I really dig the h/c angsty trope of people going through traumatic times and having to adapt back to "normal" life.

Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

(Anonymous) 2013-10-26 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who does have "long lost siblings", ones whom I likely will never meet, I dislike the trope. I really don't know why, but it rather terrifies me to think I have half sisters and brothers out there whom I never knew.

I also have estranged half brothers and sisters, and it still also terrifies me that my "little sister" still thinks of me and calls me "big sister". She's a sweet kid, but aside for genetics, we share nothing-- we've only met a few times. To me, she's more a cousin than a half sister.

So yeah. Not something I'm fond of. But probably because I'll never have a close relationship with any of my "long lost" siblings.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-10-26 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I probably have "long lost siblings". I've never checked. Because of this I have to say I also don't care if someone does or does not use the trope. Like most writing, all I care about is them pulling it off well.

Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

(Anonymous) 2013-10-26 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I only ever saw it on Buffy and I hated it. I got used to Dawn and even eventually stopped hating her once she stopped whining all the time, but the last 3 seasons would have been so much better if she hadn't been written in and they'd done anything else with the Key for the Glory plotline.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[personal profile] caffeine_buzz 2013-10-26 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I have similar feelings about Dawn. By the end of the series I didn't mind her, but I hate the way they worked her into the series, I still find it an incredibly cheap and lazy to make a new character important to the cast without having to deal with all that messy developing relationships stuff.

Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

(Anonymous) 2013-10-26 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's often pulled off well and I don't really care for it in the first place, so no not my thing.

Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

(Anonymous) 2013-10-26 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I don't mind it done well. Done well it would annoy me less than those 'AUs' where the protagonist has a Mary Sue twin sister that's been there all along.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[personal profile] elaminator 2013-10-26 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I've seen any examples of that trope that I liked, but if it was well written and didn't feel cheap or completely random then yea, I think I could enjoy it.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-10-26 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
OMG. I read that wrong. I thought you were asking if we had long lost siblings. Which I do in fact! Two half brothers I did not meet until I was 14.

Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

(Anonymous) 2013-10-26 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I always wanted a long lost sibling, growing up. I guess the six siblings I was raised with weren't enough for me.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-10-26 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
It was really awkward the first few times you talk to them. Especially since we talked to my brother on the phone.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[personal profile] souljelly 2013-10-26 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I think seeing so many terrible "Vegeta/Goku/Raditz has a long-lost brother and/or sister" fanfics back in the day ruined this trope for me. Then again, I'm not big on family things at all, in fiction or real life.

Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

(Anonymous) 2013-10-26 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
It cracks me up looking back on it since Vegeta does have a long lost brother now.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[personal profile] souljelly 2013-10-26 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, I didn't realise the irony of that until just now. Hahahaha!
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[personal profile] shortysc22 2013-10-26 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
It depends on the fandom. I was always amused by it in the Sailor Moon fandom but can't stand it in Harry Potter.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[personal profile] caffeine_buzz 2013-10-26 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on how it's handled. If it's properly foreshadowed and makes sense in context I don't mind it (like if the siblings remember each other and whichever one is the focus character occasionally mentions bits about the sibling they lost or having weird memories about someone they think they once knew, etc. stuff like that ), but if it just comes out of nowhere "Oh hi I'm your long lost sister you never knew you had let's be best friends and hey look now I'm a main character too" I don't like it. It just feels too...Mary Sue-ish (even if the character themselves is not a Mary Sue), like the writer needs a reason for this shiny new character to be important and relevant so hey, look, long lost sibling.

Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

(Anonymous) 2013-10-26 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I liked it in Percy Jackson. The Jason/Talia are sister/brother thing was fun to read in The Lost Hero.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[personal profile] dimestoresaint 2013-10-26 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on how it's done. I liked in (don't laugh) General Hospital back in the day, when Stefan and Alexis had grown up together but didn't find out they were actually siblings until adulthood (Alexis had been raised as an "orphaned distant cousin" to hide their father's infidelity IIRC). It worked for me because a) that family had already been established as crazy enough to lie to a child about her own identity for years on end and b) it built on the existing relationship between Alexis and Stefan. On the other hand, I HATED the introduction of their other sister, Kristina, because it came out of nowhere and completely contradicted everything that had been written about Alexis' history up to that point, for no apparent reason.

The only other place I remember seeing it in canon is SVU, which sucked. Too many coincidences. The guy who raped her mother JUST HAPPENED to find out he'd gotten her pregnant, and JUST HAPPENED to "keep track of" (stalk the fuck out of) the child from afar while married and raising another family, and JUST HAPPENED to have saved some newspaper clippings from when Olivia made the high school honor roll or some shit, and JUST HAPPENED to have a son whose DNA JUST HAPPENED to be in the system for reasons that were totally not his fault when Olivia JUST HAPPENED to illegally run her own DNA looking for potential relatives? So stupid. If they had to give Liv a half-sibling, I wish they would have set it up they way they set up the red herring with Vivian Arliss. At least that made some sense--not much, but more than this.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-10-26 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
Only if it's canon siblings. I can't really get into fic where the "long lost sibling" is an OC.
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Re: SUDDENLY A WILD SIBLING APPEARS

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-10-26 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
Further explanation:

I have seen quite a few fics where one or more of the younger Dwarves (Fíli, Kíli, Ori, Gimli) get lost or are kidnapped and end up in the Shire, in the care of Bilbo.

I suppose the advantage of that sort of plot is that it has plenty about the life they live in the Shire instead of -BAM! New sibling that was always there!- sort-of thing.

Like someone else said, ~New Sibling That Was Always There~ smacks of Sue/Stu. Lost/kidnapped sibling is more about how being raised elsewhere changes them from the canon version.