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[Horatio Hornblower]

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[Horatio Hornblower]

I don't know anything about the show, really, but I did think it was pretty famous in fandom for being rather homoerotic. Don't know how intentional, though.

It had lots of attractive men in extremely tight pants.

sold!

It also has a Doctor (Who) and Mister Fantastic.

It's title is Horatio HORNBLOWER. If that's isn't a gay porn title, albeit, a classy gay porn title, I don't know what is.

"Hey, Captain Hornblower, why don't you come over here and blow my horn." *eyebrow wiggle*

It has a guy straddling a giant cannon between his legs as he calls for the red-hot balls.

That is in no way the most suggestive or gratuitous scene. It doesn't make the top ten.

I got more of an impression of it being cultural differences, since it seems like standard male/male interactions in that era were like that

to be fair, I was mostly just watching for the plot and for the pretty pretty men. I wanted them for me, not for each other, lol.

This. Just read some Patrick O'Brian and count all the times a guy calls their male friend "dear". Or just read some actual letter from guys to guys of the era. In general, before Victorian times, men were allowed to be a lot more touchy-feely with each other.

Well, there was rum and the lash... guess the sodomy was implied? :p

Ugh, I wanted to link to this really funny Hornblower vid of "Too Sexy", but I can't find it online anywhere! :-P

Found it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSCDHmX2YU

Alas, it is not the same one. :-(

This is funny to me because I just watched this series recently, and I totally expected to see the slash (trust me, my goggles are fully functioning) and I just...didn't. Weird how different things do it for different people.

I feel like I missed something when I watched this. I didn't see any slash in the entire series. It's been a few years, so maybe I'll watch it again and see it this time.

I'm just sad that so many people only ever mention Archie. I didn't dislike him, but in the end, he was a composite character. Bush and Hornblower (insert porn name joke here) were also very present and very slashy.
The slash factor in the books is also even higher than the series, but that's because of the time they were written in. Play some rounds of "Fic or Forester" - you have to guess whether an apparently homoerotic line is from a fic or from the books. Hint: The slashier ones are often quotes from the books.

"He raised the bucket to his lips, leaning back to balance the weight; and drank and drank, water slopping in quantities over his chest as he drank, water pouring over his face until the bucket was empty, and then he put it down with a grin at Bush, his face still dripping water. The very sight of him was enough to make Bush, who had already had one drink from the well, feel consumed with thirst all over again."

Love it so much. Gotta read these now!

I agree. It was a fine thing to introduce us to Hornblower's awkward social side via his interactions with Archie in the first movie, but the character should have never been brought back after that (as was the original plan, btw). Especially he should not have been in series 2 and given the lines that actually made Bush a sympathetic character in the book (standing up for Wellard, etc). Those two episodes could have been a lot more focused and a lot less messy without Archie there.

I kind of understood why they did it - for the same reason that they had Styles and Matthews coming back: It does make sense not having to establish new characters when you can just re-use an already established one. They just went a bit over the top with Archie and yes, I was also pretty miffed about them giving him Bush's lines...
But the whole mutiny plot was very different from the book in the end.

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(Anonymous) - 2013-10-30 15:38 (UTC) - Expand

No, I don't think it was intentional slash-fan-service, but come on; the sail-ship era is made up of: all male environment, isolation, harsh conditions, heroic deeds... The whole concept is a crossover between cabin and prison fic, just with better scenery.

I agree that the series can be very easily seen as slashy, even by not-fangirls (my hetero male friends I watched the show with can attest to that), but I wish they had focused the love a lot more on Bush and a lot less on Archie. tbh, I wish that pairing (Horatio/Archie) would fucking die already, I hate it so much.

I don't really hate it, I just wish that people would stop completely ignoring Bush. I mean hell, the whole Hornblower TV Tropes section was apparently written by Horatio/Archie fangirls with a constant "they're soooo slashy" and Bush rarely gets mentioned...

Not to mention the bad grammar on that page. D:

tbh, the show itself ignored Bush pretty much until Archie was dead. What was supposed to be Bush's introductory episodes featured a lot more Archie than Bush, because they had decided to have poor woobie Archie go with a big bang, and don't you forget how awesome and cute he was. Who cares about Bush? In the source material he was Hornblower's first and only true friend, so nobody important.

It was totally fanservicey. Standing in the rain, wet, crying, holding poor, sick Archie in see-through shirt? Totally. I was more of a het girl when I watched it and didn't need goggles at all. My totally non-slasher friends feel the same way, that Horatio and Archie are written like boyfriends.

I read the books too. I like Bush. Paul McGann is hot. But still, the show creators totally wrote Hornblower/Kennedy as a lovely, doomed, romantic relationship, and Archie is pretteh, so big deal if people ship Hornblower/Kennedy?