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Am I the only one who thinks the SERIAL MURDER OF SLAVES is a bit more disturbing than being a crook?

I mean I don't think it's ever wrong to enjoy a character, they are fucking fictional. BUT I DON'T THINK YOU QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW BAD THIS HISTORICAL FIGURE WAS, OP

Edited 2013-10-28 23:49 (UTC)

Swearengen recruited his prostitutes in the same manner as it is still carried out by some today; advertising legitimate stage, cleaning, or waitressing jobs in his theater to desperate young women and advancing them the money for their (one way) trip; then, when they arrived, forcing them into what was essentially indentured servitude as prostitutes. Those who balked were first threatened with demands for repayment of the funds advanced to them for the trip; if that failed, they were threatened with beatings, and if that failed they were beaten and physically forced to submit to Swearengen's demands. Many still resisted, but those who escaped this fate could only find themselves in no better situation, as penniless women with no source of income, alone in a rough and rowdy mining camp, and with the constant threat of Swearengen's men hanging over them. Many grew sick and died from lack of proper nutrition and shelter, while many others committed suicide.

It's been some time since I watched Deadwood, but I don't remember any, or much, of this happening in the show? Am i wrong? Of course he was a shitty person still but I guess what i'm saying is if you compared the TV version of him instead of the real one to AHS lady, he would look tame.

He was an abusive jackass on the show, but they didn't go into any details of where the prostitutes came from, and one, at least, left his employ altogether and went on to other, better things.

However, there were horrifying goings-on with Chinese women shipped in to 'service' Chinatown, and the other brothel owner in town was shown to have bought at least one if not several of the prostitutes in his employee as children, and then kept them by way of financial blackmail.

So they kind of spread the evil around to several people instead of just him.

On April 10, 1834, a fire broke out in the Lalaurie residence on Royal Street, starting in the kitchen. When the police and fire marshals got there, they found a seventy-year-old woman, the cook, chained to the stove by her ankle. She later confessed to them that she had set the fire as a suicide attempt for fear of her punishment, being taken to the uppermost room, because she said that anyone who had been taken there never came back. As reported in the New Orleans Bee of April 11, 1834, bystanders responding to the fire attempted to enter the slave quarters to ensure that everyone had been evacuated. Upon being refused the keys by the Lalauries, the bystanders broke down the doors to the slave quarters and found "seven slaves, more or less horribly mutilated ... suspended by the neck, with their limbs apparently stretched and torn from one extremity to the other", who claimed to have been imprisoned there for some months.[14]

One of those who entered the premises was Judge Jean-Francois Canonge, who subsequently deposed to having found in the LaLaurie mansion, among others, a "negress ... wearing an iron collar" and "an old negro woman who had received a very deep wound on her head [who was] too weak to be able to walk." Canonge claimed that when he questioned Madame Lalaurie's husband about the slaves, he was told in an insolent manner that "some people had better stay at home rather than come to others' houses to dictate laws and meddle with other people's business."[15]

A version of this story circulating in 1836, recounted by Martineau, added that the slaves were emaciated, showed signs of being flayed with a whip, were bound in restrictive postures, and wore spiked iron collars which kept their heads in static positions.[13]

Ooookay, I guess if you're creeping out the rest of the slaveholding South, you're doing something really special.

Yeah. Granted New Orleans was always a little different, but this woman was horrid enough she had slaves taken away before this for undue cruelty.

Al Capone was a tax evader too! He didn't turn in his TEN FORTY! That's bad.

Edited 2013-10-28 23:53 (UTC)

Did he really raise us from "taxation" though? More like he raised us from "possible audit" for failing to reporting our income, deductions, etc. correctly.

Capone was also a murderer jsyk

Well yeah.

I'm saying I can understand why someone would find the one really, really, really fucking disturbing.

Not to mention that the Swerengen's forcing women into sex slavery wasn't part of the show. From what I can tell, Lalaurie's cruelty is.

It totally is.

I agree. Also it depends on what kind of murderer he was, right? I mean, murder is awful no matter what, but I'd argue that torture is a whole 'nother level of sick.

You'd be surprised at how many people have never heard of Madama LaLaurie and the atrocities she commited.

My husband, for example, had never heard of her before I told him who she was and a brief sypnosis of what she did.

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