[ SECRET POST #286 ]

[degrees.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #286 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry it's so late! I got caught up making icons for an RP journal *dies*

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 41 secrets from Secret Submission Post #041.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 ] broken links, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 ] not!secret, 0 repeat, [ 1 ] personal attack.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Friday, October 19th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

1: Yay for the good side of anonymity. Personally, I don't like anonymity, since my experience (aside from the kink meme I participated in) has been that being anonymous and unbannable increases the odds of someone trolling or popping off with flames rather than actually engaging with me or providing useful feedback.

5: Sometimes I've wondered too. I have a deep connection to some fictional characters, I feel very protective of their characterization (especially in cases where it's later canon that fucks it up) and love to write or RP them, and I notice similarities between myself and them.

The difference between someone like you or me and the "crazy soulbonders," I think, is that we know these characters are absolutely fictional, do not exist, have never existed in reality and our "resemblances" are due to the characters matching archetypes similar to those we match. We also know that we are not them, and they do not dwell in us.

For example, I love Hiro Nakamura as a character. I have a lot in common with his personality and interests, and I hate how S2 canon has fucked with his characterization. I've even cosplayed him at a con, and I like to write him and RP as him.

Nevertheless, I know he's NOT FUCKING REAL and I'm NOT HIM and that there's many things different about me. If I began to believe I was fronting him as a personality or that I could travel through time or ever had homicidal thoughts at all, I'd immediately check myself in for psychiatric treatment, get a ton of sleepy meds, and never watch the show or write fic again.

11: Yeah, people like those make the rest of us (who are anime and manga fans AND slash/yaoi writers AND falling under GLBTQI) get treated like shit since people are convinced that all of them in one person means that one person is "one of those." I really hope someone can get through to him or her about that.

18: Me too.

36: *hugs you* I hate it when people say that "fandom/the internet isn't real" as an excuse for making other people feel horrible. It's emotional abuse in many cases, no matter what the abuse is over, and the injuries from it ARE real.

Seriously, would some of these people go "Baseball isn't serious business, you could have prevented this by not wearing that shirt" if someone slugged you in the face for wearing a Red Sox shirt? Forget the bleeding nose, forget that your assailant had no right to hit you for liking a team he hates, since it's not SRS BZNS, the results of abuse resulting from it aren't supposed to hurt? WTF.

39: Hee!~ I wonder if the creators in some of my fandoms like reading slash about their characters. I know the mangaka in my main fandom finds bad/rushed slash/yaoi shocking and funny, so I know he's got to have read some. Someday, I want to write something so good that if he still reads his own fandom and finds mine, he'd be happy with what I took away from his own depiction of their love for each other. ^____^

Re: 36

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

You should get some help, though. I forgot to add that in my OP, but yeah, you could use some help. Don't be ashamed about it though: if someone beat you up repeatedly, you'd need a doctor. Someone's likely beaten your emotions and mental state up a fair bit, and you just need a little help for the wounds.

[climbatize.livejournal.com]

5. ...If you're gonna call a group of people crazy, it'd be cool if you at least had some idea what you were talking about. Because you're mostly talking about otakin, not soulbonders–I'm one of those "crazy soulbonder types," but I don't think any fictional characters actually exist, or that I'm a fictional character. LURK MOAR.

11. IAWTC! That person is giving people in all three of those communities such bad names. D:

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

I think I may not have clarified. By "crazy soulbonder," I wasn't referring to soulbonders in general, but to the kind that go out and believe they ARE the characters, demand fic to be written their way, scam people, act violently, that kind of thing. I didn't mean all soulbonders, most definitely ^_^

And 11: YES. I've been accused of being fake since of course anyone who likes yaoi and identifies as male is "obviously just faking because they've read too much yaoi and wants to live it" /eyes roll with sarcasm

[climbatize.livejournal.com]

5. Okay, never mind. :D It seemed like you were generalizing. And anyone who acts like that probably isn't really a soulbonder, anyway... or at least, I hope not.

11. Um, wow. That's just really sad. D: Especially because of how when bio-guys like yaoi, everyone starts fangirling them...

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

5: ^_^ Yeah. The last thing I'd want to do is generalize, it's happened to me enough ^_^

And as for 11, I think it's just societal prejudice in that people are convinced that the correlation can't ever be from stuff like ftm guys liking hot sex in any form (which many of us, including me, do ^_^) or from liking yaoi/slash since it provided a very primitive way to think about and explore the issues back before we had the courage to accept ourselves/come out. Instead, they believe (stupidly, and enforced by the people like the person in 11) that somehow, reading it made us decide not to want to be women anymore. /eyeroll Never mind there's plenty of evidence that the causes are likely biological, and it's something most of us have dealt with long before we even knew what yaoi was.

Logic =/= assholes though, as listening to a conservative talk show for any amount of time will tell you, what with the hosts who think shouting down even the most mild-mannered and logical guests equals legitimate debate.