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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-05 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2499 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2499 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Questionable Content)


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[Transformers]


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[Sherlock Holmes/C. Auguste Dupin]


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[Pacific Rim]


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[Obscurus Lupa Presents]


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[k-pop]


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[Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart]


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[Neil Gaiman, Doctor Who]


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[Teen Wolf]














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(Anonymous) 2013-11-05 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
would the doctor be a man in a woman's body if he changed genders?
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-11-06 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Imo, yes.

Other people disagree.
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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-11-06 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
They're not humans, though. What exactly is the culture around gender and sex on Gallifrey?

SOMEBODY WRITE THIS! (Please? I really want to read it.)
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-11-06 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
No one knows. But idk. I think it's kinda lazy to just handwave it and be like "it's different for Time Lords" when the actual human audience might be dealing with issues of sex and gender.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for articulating exactly what I've always felt about this but could never put into words.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm dealing with gender issues, and I'd still like to see a female Doctor. I'd be happy to asume changing gender identity is as easy for Time Lords as changing bodies.

I keep seeing you make this argument. Are you struggling with gender identity? If yes, please remember you don't speak for all of us.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
And neither do you. They never said they were speaking for everyone, in fact they specifically said this is what they personally think.
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[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-11-06 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
They are dead between knees and waist as far as sex goes and as far as gender norms they are church of england.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
The Doctor was married and had a family once upon a time way before River...how is that dead?

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Because LOOMS.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-11-07 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
...Are non-canon.
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[personal profile] littlestbirds 2013-11-06 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I wondered about this too. I don't know anything about DW though. Does the doctor influence what his next body is? Do timelords have gender?
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[personal profile] sarastark 2013-11-06 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
The Doctor doesn't seem to be able to, but Romana could.
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[personal profile] ozaline 2013-11-07 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
With the exception that the second Doctor was given the chance to pick his next regeneration when he was banished to Earth (mostly cause they hadn't figured out what a regeneration was by that point).
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-11-06 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
That sort of depends on whether gender is always fixed by the mind, and seperate from the body.

That strikes me as questionable.
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[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-11-06 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Well the rabid SJWs say that any magic sex change must be treated like a real case of gender dysphoria, but they also scream that there is no reason a magic sex change in Doctor Who can be like Gender Dysphoria because then it would be a special type of magic. So, who the fuck knows. Maybe the SJWs are just full of shit when it comes to magic sex changes since they way different from real conditions that real people struggle with. How come SJWs get all worked up with fictional crap but do nothing to help in the real world anyways?

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Easier to bitch about the fictional crap.
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[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-11-06 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
and they get cookies from other keyboard warriors. They never get cookies for acting like complete slur spewing crazies in the real world.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
The great majority of SJWs I've seen complaining about this are cisgender women who, for some reason, have decided to speak for everyone with gender dysphoria. I have a feeling many of them simply just can't admit they really just want a pretty guy to lust after and write slash about.

headcanon

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I've always thought that the Doctor didn't think of gender in the same way we on Earth tend to, so in my opinion no. He would be more fluid about it, being a she when female bodied and he when male bodied and whatever if ever in some other alien body.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-11-06 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Very unlikely.

Regenerations alter the regenerating Time Lord's mental state (most obvious with the Doctor, pretty clear with the Master, less clear with Romana) - the basic personality remains intact, but details get jogged about, or appear and disappear.

We've also been shown, a couple times, the Doctor spending time building an image of his body after regenerating.

Combined, those point to his mental gender clicking over to the feminine if he regenerated into a female body, even assuming that control over regeneration requires artificial means and a female body wouldn't point to a conscious or subconscious shift in his self-perception before the regeneration.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Is Ten Nine in a skinnier body? Or Six? Or Two?

They've established that the Doctor doesn't appear to have dysmorphia when he regenerates.
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[personal profile] millificent 2013-11-06 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think that would be a fun thing to explore if they had some female actresses play the doctor. They could do it both ways really.

Because on one hand it's still the Doctor. One the other hand the Doctor does change. Not just physical appearance but in personality.

(You'd need some good writers to do it though.)