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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-05 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2499 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2499 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
(Questionable Content)


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03.
[Transformers]


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04.
[Sherlock Holmes/C. Auguste Dupin]


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05.
[Pacific Rim]


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06.
[Obscurus Lupa Presents]


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07.
[k-pop]


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08.
[Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart]


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09.
[Neil Gaiman, Doctor Who]


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10.
[Teen Wolf]














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chardmonster: (Default)

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-06 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Why are people so obsessed with a female Doctor? Wouldn't it be a lot more valuable to have another original female driven series?

It's like complaining that there isn't a female Sherlock Holmes instead of trying to create an equally kickass female protagonist.
kaijinscendre: (Default)

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-11-06 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
But that's sooooo hard. You'd have to create a background and plots and ugh.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Because they like to feel oppressed if there's not a minority alternative for every white male character out there.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
But even if that's the case!
chardmonster: (Default)

Well, no.

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-06 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
They want a strong female character--I wish there were more of them--but they think the solution is creating a male character and then adding boobs.

You don't get to say gender is an important part of a person and then pretend the solution to gender representation is just swapping them around.

Re: Well, no.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't that pretty much what Amanda Tapping asked them to do for Sam Carter on Stargate?
chardmonster: (Default)

Re: Well, no.

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-06 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Do you really think that's how Sam's character worked?

I'm not saying every female character must be MAH UTERUS SPEAKS TO ME IT TELLS ME TO PROGRESS

Re: Well, no.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I just thought I read somewhere that she got sick of what they were doing in season 1 and asked them to just write her like they did the men and she would do the rest.

Re: Well, no.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
THIS. This is exactly why I hate the concept of genderswapping so much. The way to write a good female character is to write a good female character from the ground up, not just to take a male character and turn them female.

Re: Well, no.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
But then you'd never have gotten Ripley from Alien.

The role was originally written for a man, but there was nothing male-specific in the character, so during the casting process, someone said, "How 'bout Sigourney Weaver?" So she got dropped into a male role.

If (mostly male) screenwriters are horrible about writing female characters, maybe the only way we're ever going to get good female characters is for the writers to pretend that they're guys--they'll get character development independent of another (male) character, they'll get to say the cheesy action movie catchphrases, except oh yeah, they're really WOMEN, NOT GUYS.
sarillia: (Default)

Re: Well, no.

[personal profile] sarillia 2013-11-06 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I love that last sentence.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Because the creator of the show intended for the Doctor to be female in later versions, but the people who took over disagreed.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-11-06 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
There was a female Sherlock Holmes, and it was pretty damn awesome. (Punk lesbian Holmes certainly didn't do worse than any of the 21st century versions.)

(Anonymous) 2013-11-06 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
It's not an either/or case, though. People can want original, female driven series, because that would be cool. People can also want to see an older, established series with a female protagonist because that would also be cool.

If we went with your logic, then there'd be no reason to ever make any changes to ANY character once it's been created. That sort of defeats the purpose of fandom.