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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-06 06:36 pm

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shinyhappypanic: (Default)

[personal profile] shinyhappypanic 2013-11-07 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
sorry I'm a little confused, was the petition in support of unisex bathrooms or against them? and would all school bathrooms be unisex? I would hate that.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-07 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
It sounds like the petition was against them--or against a law requiring them.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-07 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
It's actually kind of hard to tell what they might have been talking about (especially given the fact that I'm not the person who was there).

However, I *think* the bill that the person was referring to was actually the bill passed (AB-1266) which allows transgender students to use school facilities and participate in activities on the basis of their gender identity, and prevents discrimination against trans students. With the line being taken by its opponents that it forces schools to allow students of different genders to use the same bathrooms, or something like that.

Again, I can't be sure, but I'm like 90% confident that's what's going on here. And so the petition is not really in favor of or against unisex bathrooms.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-07 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe the guy circulating the petition is deliberately misleading people about what the law will do?

(Anonymous) 2013-11-07 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I would bet on it.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-07 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't sound like it would *do* anything except allow the average person to vote on whether they want the bill to stand. Which is fair, I think, especially when it comes to controversial issues.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-07 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
No. Explicitly and expressly no, when those "controversial issues" involve people's rights. Minority rights should not be subject to majority vote.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-11-07 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
I can kind of see where the opposition comes from on this one, actually*, but I don't think much of that opposition applies for schools.

*kind of because in some more public places people are afraid that dudes will dress up as women and go into women's rooms to molest women off camera. I have NO IDEA if this actually happens, though, and it doesn't hold a lot of water in any case since people of the same sex can also molest each other in bathrooms. And it's also why I'm generally in favor of single-person bathrooms in public places, but it's hard to apply that to school, but people at school are generally using the bathroom in a hurry and I just don't think it's likely to be a big deal at all as long as there are stall and no urinals.

so tl;dr there is some basis for opposition but it doesn't really hold up

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2013-11-07 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
It was to put it on the ballet, but the guy was obviously against the law. I was reading up on it, and apparently it was just allows transgendered people to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-07 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
They're trying to get a proposition on the ballot to repeal AB 1266, which allows students in CA to join sex-segregated school programs (including sports teams) and use the restroom facilities that correspond to their gender identities regardless of what gender is indicated on school records.