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I hate Urobuchi's guts. That is all.

I hate you anon.

"I have nothing but contempt for the deceitful thing men call 'happiness', and find myself with no choice but to push my characters, whom I pour my heart and soul out to create, into the abyss of tragedy."
Do you also hate happiness?

Urobuchi's started to lighten up recently and make some stuff that verges on idealistic. I think he might be making peace with his memories. (Apparently, the dark stuff started with him nearly dying in an epidemic.)

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How dare anyone enjoy darker fiction sometimes. Everything must have a happy ending and be pleasant and happy go lucky.

No. Fuck that.

Calling the Butcher a feminist is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. You should read some more interviews with the guy, his view of women is pretty creepy.

So is calling Whedon feminist.

Imagine I'm going to regret this, but would like to know more?

"There's yet another different type of love depicted in the Sakura route. It really expresses the dark sides that all women have, but how men can accept that and love women regardless. Something akin to the "dignity of men" comes across."

Maybe it's just me, but this sounds very patronizing.

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don't know about that guy, but Joss Whedon is annoying as fuck

I've only seen F/Z but I came away with the impression that he has serious issues with women...

The women of F/Z were, well, disappointing, especially if you compare them with the ladies of the TM works written by Nasu.

Really? I thought F/Z was the only part of the Fateverse that treated Saber as the actually interesting female character with her own goals and agency that she should be, instead of feeling the need to turn her into Shirou's moe waifu to appeal to the fanboy crowd.

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"Who is next?"

Kamen Rider Gaim.

tbf whedon kills off anyone he if he thinks the audience will be emotionally gutted by it (see Wash and Wesley for the "ha, you think just because the show/movie's almost over that your favorite characters are safe? suck it" variety of character death)

Eh, not really? I'm not even that huge of a stan for Madoka Magica but there's a narrative reason for the characters to die that fits with the development of the show and the message it's going for, it's not just 'girls die for the sake of girls dying.'

As for F/Z, just about everyone died in that show except Waver and Kotomine to begin with. And I haven't watched it, but don't all the major female characters in Psycho-Pass live?

Yep, all the main female characters of Psycho-Pass survived, it was the guys who ended up on the Urobuchi chopping block. (But worry not, there's a whole upcoming second season to kill them off in :P) I generally see Urobuchi as a pretty equal-opportunity character killer.

Yeah I was just coming here to say I don't see how anyone could complain about the deaths in Madoka for feminist reasons.

Whedon kills off well-written and interesting female and male characters. He really is an equal opportunity character killer.

Poor Wash.

Urobuchi is a pretty equal opportunity character killer though.

(I wouldn't call him a feminist, but he does write some pretty damn amazing female characters. Akane from Psycho Pass, the Madoka gals, and his characterization of Saber= fantastic. )

Urobuchi is definitely as "feminist" as joss whedon, that's for sure.

Remember this scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ0gevxNgzY) from PSYCHO-PASS? (Trigger warning: violence, generally disturbing.) Or the beginning of the first episode?

Most of the nameless victims in this anime are women. That's really questionable.

I've heard speculation that the linked scene was inspired by the death of Shingo Minamino (a colleague of Urobuchi's.) As in the scene, many people watched, but no one did anything.

I love Urobuchi, but he's definitely not a feminist. Have you played Saya no Uta? That's one of his first major works. It's an excellent VN, but it kind of involves one of the main character's female friends getting kidnapped by the main character and his monster (possibly a tentacle monster) girlfriend, forcibly transformed into a horrifying monster, having her brain broken in the process, and then she's kept as a pet/sex slave. Not exactly feminist writing.

Granted that game does also have Ryoko Tanbo, thorough badass neurosurgeon, but that doesn't exactly make up for the whole sex slave thing. Or Saya (tentacle monster girl) getting raped by a middle-aged man at one point, in graphic detail.