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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-08 06:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2502 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2502 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Except her argument wasn't reasonable. One, the threat was leaving. If you brought that same defense down to a human-to-human level in a court of law, you'd have a rough time claiming "self-defense" if you shot somebody in the back as they were leaving-- especially since they had really done no permanent damage.

Also, stopping the Sycorax from letting other alien races know that Earth was defended and aware was a terribly stupid move. As the Doctor points out, the planet was getting noisy, and could very easily have had to go through a similar experience all over again, just because of Harriet Jones. As a leader, it was a bad move.
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[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-11-09 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
And the next set of aliens intent on global domination now have no reason to back down if things look dicey for them, and every reason to double down the attack and break out the Godzilla level weapons in desperation because they wouldn't be able to trust in a negotiated ceasefire. Way to make Earth less safe Harriet.
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[personal profile] hwc 2013-11-09 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
What reassurance did she have that the Sycorax weren't going to come back, though? The Doctor defeated one of them in a sword fight, awesome, but it's not like she could count on that. They were an hithero unknown alien race - how is she to know how binding that whole thing was?
And as the only leader of a nation present she would sooner or later have to explain her actions to the rest of the world's governments, how would she have explained letting them go to them? "Oh, sure, they did just take a third of the world's population hostage and tried to enslave us, but see, that guy in a bathrobe won a sword figth and it's all right now, they can't come back because of honour, or something. I don't know, two hours ago we didn't even have any clue what they were saying, never mind being familiar enough with their culture to safely say whether or not they'll honour the outcome of said sword fight."

And honestly, the Doctor can't really be counted on. Remember when Nine wanted to return to Earth a day after Rose first joined him only for him to miss by a year? What when something like this happens when Earth is in danger? And at the time they didn't even have a way of contacting the Doctor, as it was Martha who left the mobile with him.
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[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-11-09 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Well if they came back then she had a big ass space gun from Torchwood now online and capable of one-shotting them. A secret One-Shotting gun. A stealth Deathstar. Not a secret now though, is it. She gave up the existence a secret weapon to shoot someone already running away, d'oh! That is shitty strategy if ever there was one.

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[personal profile] hwc 2013-11-09 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
On the other hand, she shot up a big-ass spaceship. Depending on how well-known the Sycorax were, that's some badass cred right there.

"So what happened to the Sycorax anyway? Conquered any new planets?"
"They went to Earth."
"Huh. Sucks for Earth, I guess."
"No, man. You don't understand. They went to Earth, but they never came back. Not a single one of them."

And if it hadn't been for Ten I'm pretty sure that shooting up the alien threat that threatened a third of the world's population would have given her political career a nice little boost too.
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[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-11-09 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
You mean the Sycorax that were one step up from scavengers tooling around in one spaceship that Earth barely managed to defeat only by shooting them in the back after a negotiated truce? Well we won't make that mistake my fellow aliens, no quarter now lads its conquer or perish.

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[personal profile] hwc 2013-11-09 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I admit I don't remember the Christmas special that well, but I thought the Sycorax were big fish? Wasn't that why the scavanger fish Santas were with them? The hostage thing with the blood hynosis wouldn't have worked with a more advanced race, yeah, but I thought the Sycorax were known for enslaving planets.

Though other races probably wouldn't know that the Sycorax were retreating. They could have looked for a better parking spot for all anyone knew, it's not like the fight was broadcasted. (I think. Now I'm not sure anymore.) Would anyone besides those that were onboard the ship even know that the Doctor had been involved?
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[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-11-09 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
They were a roving gang of trade slavers, not a big fish by any accounts. Raiders basically. Just slightly higher up the totem pole than the robot santas.

Since the Sycorax withdrawal looked like a withdrawal then yeah, it would probably be known. Its also hard to keep a secret in the Who-niverse too (it is bloody hard to keep it in the real one too).

(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Space is really, really big, though. Why would any other alien race know what the withdrawal looked like at all, considering the unlikelihood of them even looking at the one spot anyways?