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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-09 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2503 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It's never going to happen, this makes me both angry and sad.

So I don't watch it. I don't buy it's things. I change the channel if it comes on. (The switching point being the second or so espisode I saw out of context where he had gained a new body and frantically checked over himself to make sure he was a female, acting as if being in a female body is somehow a horrible thing)

I'm just so sick of cool scifi shows where the main character is male.

:/

(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
But being in a female body when you're a man IS a horrible thing, that's why transgender people suffer so much.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-09 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't aware that the Doctor so firmly identified as a man?

I still didn't like it. It read more to me as a "worse thing ever is to be a female" (and played as comedy?) rather than a "i don't like this body" + serious identity issues.

It's just... URGH I'm frustrated and want more sci fi shows with female leads and for it not to be treated as such a groundbreaker and just be a story. I'm tired of it :(

/pokes at the hot topic in resigned frustration

Orphan Black is cool at least, and I liked S1 of Dollhouse. But it'd be nice to be watching a well known show for once.

Sorry I'm feeling particularly disheartened over it today.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-10 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
As a female who's very happy being female and is truly thankful that she was born in the right sort of body, I'd be absolutely fucking horrified (and very probably suicidal) if I suddenly developed a male body. I can therefore understand why a male character with regeneration powers would be relieved about not regenerating into a female body. Suddenly being in a body that didn't match your gender *would* be a horrible thing for most people, male or female. Sure, some people are indifferent to their physical sex, but they're a very small minority. Hell, if you ever doubt the importance of physical sex to many people, look to the number of trans people who go through excrutiatingly painful gender reassignment surgery (hint: they don't do it for the lulz).
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[personal profile] silverau 2013-11-10 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
This. :/

(Anonymous) 2013-11-10 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Sigh, the Doctor is used to being in many different bodies, Time Lords don't think like humans already, but you're presuming that gender is like that for them? Seeing as we know regeneration can be cross-species (I don't get it, but that's Douglas Adams for you), or cross-sex or gender (that's Gaiman for you) it's really not a big stretch to say "our human ideas of embodiment are quite different".

(Anonymous) 2013-11-10 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Except this isn't about humans or real life issues? And when you go into a show being told it's an alien who changes body every now and then - then the second episode you see is him being glad in a comedic relieved style that he's not a woman? All I see here is yet another show afraid to have a female main character.

Not pleased and mostly disappointed.


I suspect if they ever do make the doctor female, the entire arc will be about how horrible it is for the main character to be a female and that the doctor will need constant rescuing. Which is equally depressing. Everything about doctor Who is depressing.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-10 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
canon-blind here but if the alien identifies as male and is shown being relieved that he ended up in a male body rather than a female body, it seems pretty clear to me that gender is in fact an important matter to this alien regardless of whether they change bodies every now and then or not. which also means that even if he ended up in a female body, he would still identify as a man, so then what would even be the point? he still wouldn't be a female main character, he would be a male character in a female body.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-10 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, man, it's treated as no more of an issue than the Doctor's teeth being a bit weird.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-10 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
You could try Fringe - Peter and Walter Bishop do have prominent roles, but I would say that Olivia Dunham is the main character - it takes a few episodes for the actress to really settle into role, but once she does, it's amazing (but I would recommend skipping the final season).

There's also Haven on SyFy.