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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-13 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2507 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2507 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 038 secrets from Secret Submission Post #358.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
... Maybe I shoulda phrased that better.

- No, a 7 year old is not capable of giving consent, ever, IRL. I do not find real children sexy either, Jesus! Children pornography is the actual worst!

- Yes, this is a rp with a shota /fantasy/ theme, and I thought F!S was cool with fantasies being fantasies and "Your Kink is Not My Kink (and that's cool)", even though of course there were going to be some people squicked by the secret despite that.

And it was worded (albeit poorly) like that because I came to terms with my shotacon kink years ago, when I was a teenager. It's kind of a non-issue for me at this point. The fetishization of trans* folk is new, though, and more disturbing to me right now (if only for that).

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, welcome to the club then. *looking fondly at the recent Rocky Horror secret*

OP again

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
There's also the thing with the character wanting to be a pretty 50's Wife after he hits 15 (it's a long AU), acting and dressing the part, and that stuff usually in fact squicks me.

I don't get it, and I feel guilty. Hence the secret. And... people? You weren't helping. OH YES, IT'S FUCKED UP AND PROBLEMATIC, please tell me something I didn't know. Sigh.

Re: OP again

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, one series I enjoy has a character very much like your RP one, and he's never come across as trans* to me. He's male, with a male body, the way he dresses goes from unisex to distinctly feminine. He acts stereotypically female (done to extremes for humor). Heck, he's even given birth twice (yes, MPREG is canon there). But if someone refers to him as female, he corrects them. Or at least tries.

Being male does not preclude someone from acting feminine. So I really don't think you're trans* fetishizing here.

(Series in question is "Patalliro", if you're curious. The character I'm talking about is named Maraich.)

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, yes, it does interest me. I've heard about Patalliro, but haven't got across it yet. Maraich sounds like a really cool character. Thanks for the rec!

And thanks for being reassuring about this.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know what you want to hear, exactly. Yeah, it's fetishizing, and it's pretty gross. That said you're not hurting anyone, so whatever. No one's going to pat you on the ass for finding the thought of a seven-year-old getting railed followed by this weird fetishized version of transwomanhood sexy. But do as you please. If you feel guilty about it maybe you should sit down and have a good hard think about why that is and whether you want to keep pursuing it.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's hot? Despite the guilt? Also the story on itself is really interesting from a writer's standpoint. It developed like this in a very organic way. We weren't even planning this with my rp buddy. It happened, and we both went "... fuck this is wrong, but I. I kinda like it. Oh god. May we continue?", "... yeah. Yeah, let's. We'll see what happens."

I think everyone has a surefire kink that qualifies as "so shameful/immoral they wouldn't tell anybody about".

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Right, I get all that, but what advice are you even looking for? You're down with continuing with it despite the guilt. So...have fun? But don't act so surprised that people are skeeved the fuck out by the entire thing.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
See comment below, anon. I just wanted to get it off my chest, not advice. F!S is not only about asking for advice.

Thanks for the good wishes, and the warning. I guess I lucked out when my rp buddy was right there with me, then, if 99% of the people is "skeeved as fuck" by the idea.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Also: Wasn't expecting buttpats when I submitted this. It was more of a venting thing. That said, the reaction was strongly negative - also expected, but I realized afterwards I could've worded things better, not in pursue of said buttpats, but only to clarify things.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
kink-shaming, ooh yeah

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
da

yep. sorry, but i believe that there are some kinks that are genuinely damaging and unhealthy and finding children (yes, even drawn representations of children) sexy is one of them. fuck yeah i'm shaming it.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you have very good reasons to be disgusted. It's an outlet for me, though: I rp the shota character, and that character has always been a projection for me.

Idk. Does saying all this make you feel so morally superior you need to point it out?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You were doing so well until that over-defensive, passive-aggressive last sentence.

Now I can't take you seriously at all.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-15 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't being facetious. Just tired, and exasperated.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Anything involving underage leads to a heated argument.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I knew that, and it was the reason I attempted to explain the situation the best I could to avoid a conga line of people screaming at my face how sick I am. Apparently in that attempt I made very poor word choices, and put more enfasis in stuff that didn't deserve it as much as the thing that would piss others off the most.

... And I still got a conga line of people yelling at my face. So I fail.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-14 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh ferpete's sake. No-one is yelling at you, knock off the "poor persecuted li'l me" tripe.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-11-15 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, just look at the thread and tell me there's no "OMG SO DISGUSTING" reacction.