[ SECRET POST #2510 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2510 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's not a great attitude either way. Before I was able to study abroad, I learned English in my country, but even having the time/opportunity to do that much made me more privileged than many others. And hey, we never think our judgmental tendencies will ever affect anything, until we are called upon to interact with the people we've judged and suddenly those silent judgments start coloring our treatment of them. I speak from experience; I actually had to work to unlearn my bad attitude because it made working in a professional environment full of people from different backgrounds difficult.

[(Anonymous)]

Again your experiences/circumstances =/= mine. I'm actually very relaxed about other people's English and supportive of them in this respect in real life. I never correct or critcise anybody. It just annoys the hell out of me when people without a certain level of skill write fics.

I'm not sure while you insist I be perfect in every little aspect ever. I am allowed flaws that do not actually hurt anybody.

And I totally used that subjunctive to flaunt my priviledge - not sure when personal effort and hard work became that, but hokay, be it your way.

[(Anonymous)]

Ahh hubris. "While" should be "why".

And I may be in the wrong mood for the discussion, I am not hals as aggressive about the subject as I may come across. Just let people be not perfect in their heads. Just a tad less self-righteous.

That will be EOT and good night from me.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm assuming hals should be half?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I certainly hope that's the case. Just remember what I said if you should ever end up working with someone whose skill level underwhelms you. The situation doesn't change just because it's no longer about fanfiction; if anything, you'd probably be more annoyed because this person's ability or lack thereof might potentially affect your own performance. It becomes a bad habit so easily.

NA

[(Anonymous)]

Just remember what I said if you should ever end up working with someone whose skill level underwhelms you

Wow, you sure are full of yourself. I'm a non-native speaker as well and it annoys me to see bad English in fandom. I don't care if the fan is a native speaker or not, if they are a prolific writer or often participate in discussions and their English is both bad and shows no sign of improvement at all I get irrationally ticked off.

That said, I have worked with a lot of people whose English skills were adequate at best - non-existent at worst - and I had no problems working with them. As anon above said, your experience != everyone else's experience. So you apparently had to adjust; whatever, some of us are quite capable of both silently fuming at a computer screen and working with non-native English speakers on a professional (even academic! *le gasp*) level.

Re: NA

[(Anonymous)]

See, but that's really strange to me. If you're capable of withholding judgement in a professional setting, where the stakes are much higher, why can't you do the same for your fellow fans? Fandom doesn't have a job description; nowhere does it say "Must be at thisjust don't care to. And a tendency to judge will just get worse over time, we are never as good at categorizing as we'd like to think.

[(Anonymous)]

I would not write fic after fic in another language if I was not good at that language and was not improving. It would be insulting, I feel.

You're coming off with a condescending attitude yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

It's intentional. I find this judgmental attitude repulsive, especially coming from former ESL-ers. How a person feels about their language ability is their own business, and possibly that of their teacher or employer. And hey, the OP hasn't even shown up to clarify what it is that this BNF does. Do we know she writes fic?