[ SECRET POST #2510 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2510 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Was dumbo really that problematic?

[(Anonymous)]

My aunt would not let my little cousins watch it because it was racist. I was so sad. It was my favorite movie as a child. I loved elephants.

Re: Was dumbo really that problematic?

[insanenoodlyguy]

No really, I'm having trouble seeing this. Unless there's some old cultural reference I'm missing, they are clearly supposed to be black I'm not seeing the depiction as particularly offensive.

http://youtu.be/_v2exWrsGOc

Not trolling, if there's something I'm missing, explain it to me. "Be done seen" and grammar as such works for the time, yes? Cliff Edwards being one of the crows seems more problematic casting then something specifically about the character he played.

Re: Was dumbo really that problematic?

[nyxelestia]

As I understand it, the offensiveness is part historical context, part general "on it's own it's not so bad but in the broader context of race in the media, it's bad" context.

Re: Was dumbo really that problematic?

[insanenoodlyguy]

That's still a bit vague.

Re: Was dumbo really that problematic?

[nyxelestia]

It means while the portrayal was meant to be positive, it was both invoking an extremely racist institution (crows = Jim Crow laws) for a laugh, as well as perpetuating an image of black personality, one that fed into a much broader cultural narrative of blacks - especially black men - as being lazy and high. Jovial, maybe, but still lazy and "too jovial" (re: intoxicated, weather from smoking or drinking or something else) and not reliable for anything more than, say, giving advice to hapless kids. Meant to be positive, but if you are a black man looking for a job and every white guy thinks of you as having the same personality (and more importantly, reliability) as those crows, then it becomes a negative.