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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-18 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2512 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2512 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: Won't work

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-11-19 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
The collar is made with Stainless Titanium which is can resist to impact, oxydation and water. Also, the collar is protected with plastic sealeant so is protecting the microphone, GPS locator, alarm system and the explosive detonator from water and shock. The detection system is using satellite control system, so the collar can be controlled from long distance at the operation base. The microphone is a military spy model which is can recorded everything up for 60 hours. With the time-alarm beeping system, it can indicated the carrier if he is almost out of the map, danger zones and explosive detonation time.


(From the wiki)

The island is also surrounded by military ships. On the off chance you somehow figure out the collar, they are there to shoot anybody trying to leave the island, and, if necessary, shell it to oblivion.
Edited 2013-11-19 03:31 (UTC)
ariakas: (Default)

Re: Won't work

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-11-19 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
So, damage the plastic sealant, like I said?

With all that shit inside it, salt water would destroy it pretty much instantly.

The military ships pose more of a problem once you get the collar off, but a) they're manned by people, people who could well be there "because it's a job" or "because orders" with no real desire or intention to kill innocent people and thus who could be swayed to "accidentally" let you pass, b) if there are caves on the island - as Japanese troops so adequately proved for months in the South Pacific - you can take cover from any potential shelling. And that was aerial bombardment, too, not the limited angle of attack you'd have from a ship. They would literally have to wait you out, or go ashore to try to find armed, murderous, furious people with a strong will to live, which they have no idea where they are (because the collars are destroyed) - which again, the Japanese proved was a deadly proposition, even in the face of overwhelming odds. If you picked off even a couple and acquired their weapons, it could turn into a bloodbath. You'd already know the ins and outs of the island, and how to hide on it, much much better than they would. Guerrilla warfare has beaten many a superior force in terms of numbers and arms. When you get the chance, raid a ship at night, seize it, and go. In international waters put out a distress call re: piracy to the nearest navy. They'll show up armed to the teeth.

Hopefully, though, during the weeks or months you're sitting in cover while they shell the island, the people watching this on Google Earth mention it to the UN/NATO/other governmental bodies with an interest in human rights abuses and somebody shows up to save the day.
Edited 2013-11-19 03:44 (UTC)
blunderbuss: (Default)

Re: Won't work

[personal profile] blunderbuss 2013-11-19 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
Can I just say that I utterly adore you in this thread? People are telling you that the setting forces you to kill or be killed but you refuse to accept this as an answer and keep asking why you can't try X, Y, or Z. And you're right, even if you're wrong and you get killed, it's still a better option than murdering schoolmates and/or dying.

I'd say you'd do pretty well in such a situation, or at least die with honor. (Uh, I hope that doesn't come off as creepy.)
ariakas: (Default)

Re: Won't work

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-11-19 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Hahah no it's not creepy, it's insightful. That's really the position I'm arguing from. I just can't see why I would choose to risk my life to murder my fellow unwilling victims of some insane criminal enterprise over risking my life to potentially save us all. There's just no reason to choose the former, no matter how long the odds. Besides, even if I did die in the attempt, it might help someone else figure out how to get the collars off. Which would help save not only the rest of the people on the island, but everyone else who came after.

If you're going to die anyway, what do you have to lose? You might as well go down fighting the real enemy.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: Won't work

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-11-19 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
In short... you're going to die. :P

There's two people specifically on the island with your thinking.

One is murdered by the class sociopath. The other murdered by THEIR ASSUMED FRIENDS.

Edited 2013-11-19 12:47 (UTC)
otakugal15: (C:)

Re: Won't work

[personal profile] otakugal15 2013-11-19 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thing is though....you can trick it, like the three last people did. :P

If anyone can figure that out, then you at least have a few people that can, indeed, get off the island alive.