[ SECRET POST #2513 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2513 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 048 secrets from Secret Submission Post #359.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

(DA)

For me, it depends.

It's a psychical copy? Yeah, I don't see why it shouldn't be paid for.
Otherwise? Hell no, unless it's commissioned original art instead of fanart.

[(Anonymous)]

the thing with art is, that you are not paying (only) for the materials utilized in the production of the piece, but you are paying for the skill of the artisan who produced the piece. da vinci used about ten modern dollars worth of vellum and charcoal to make sketches, but you're not paying for the vellum and charcoal; you're paying for da vinci's skill.

and his name.

[(Anonymous)]

You are missing the point, since a writer's skill should be paid for too but that doesn't mean it's ok for people to sell those skills when they aren't using their own creations.

[(Anonymous)]

then why is it so acceptable, even expected, that artists be paid to exercise their skills on properties that are not their own creations?

[(Anonymous)]

You are confusing comments here, anon, because I NEVER said I said it's acceptable. Actually, I said the opposite.

If you want to know why there's certain acceptance for that in many fandoms, I don't know and I really dislike that people sell fanart/fanfic.

[(Anonymous)]

no, actually, I am not confusion comments. I speak of a general philosophy, shared even by the owners of the intellectual property.

go to any convention, specifically one that touches upon comics. the artists who may have originally worked upon a comic set themselves up in artist's alley - or the main convention floor! - and sell commissions of the characters that they do not own but once were paid to draw. or were never paid to draw at all, as they accept commissions to draw characters from issues they had nothing to do with. the parent companies do not stop them. in fact, often times, the parent companies use the particular artists' presence as a draw to the convention, or at least to the parent companies' booths.

this is to say nothing of all the various artists who have never been employed by those companies, who pay their fee, and are allowed and encouraged to sell their product that portrays licenced figures whom they do not own upon the sales floor. it's fandom wide, in nearly every fandom.

why is this pervasive idea so acceptable-- as long as you aren't writing words?

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I think you're just mixing things (and not only comments, because you keep talking about things I didn't mention) and I should stop answering, as it's starting to feel like feeding the troll, but...

Do I have to quote myself?
I DON'T KNOW.

But hey, since you're talking about selling drawings or being paid by a company, I have to wonder why you're forgetting that:
People who write tie ins? They get paid.
People who buy the rights to write something about other's people property and sell it? They get paid.
People who make and sell zines? They get paid. If they're profiting or not it's debatable, though.

And are people against all this? Not that I know.

[(Anonymous)]

'Da Vinci' isn't even his name. T____T

[(Anonymous)]

If you don't believe skill applied over a certain time should be compensated I'd make sure to send you a piece of paper and a pencil, and leave you to assemble your artwork.

[(Anonymous)]

But you can apply that argument to fanfic too.

"If you don't believe skill applied over a certain time should be compensated I'd make sure to send you a piece of paper and a pencil, and leave you to assemble write your artwork story."

[(Anonymous)]

FFS, skill deserves to be compensated, but the way you show or sell that skill makes the value change (and sometimes *gasp* that value may not be monetary).

But if you really think everyone deserve to be paid not matter what or how they do something, then please start sending donations (you decided of how much depending of what they do and their skills) through paypal to all your favorite fanfic writers/fanart artist/gift sets makers/icon makers/secret makers/etc. Since, you know, everything they do needs both time and skills that get polished over time.

[(Anonymous)]

But if the sketch or painting is available on their website, you could print it off yourself and not have to pay the fan artist anything.