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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-21 07:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #2515 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2515 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[ER]


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[Pacific Rim]


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[Assassin's Creed 2]


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[El Goonish Shive]


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[Trigun]


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[Ellen Muth, Cara Delevingne, Doutzen Kroes, Denise Richards, Billie Piper]


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[Dodgeball]


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[football rps]


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10. http://rs954.pbsrc.com/albums/ae23/fandomsecretsaccount2/Mobile%20Uploads/Peter_zps7113afe9.png~320x480
[Peter is the Wolf; OP requested link for nudity]


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[bandslash]


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(Anonymous) 2013-11-22 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think Heaven would let you surround yourself with fictional characters, actually, if that's what you wanted.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-22 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you can even have the Backstreet Boys sing for you in a great party when you get there.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-22 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Nice.

*golf clap for movie reference*

(Anonymous) 2013-11-22 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Any yearning we have towards fictional characters is a result of our unfulfilled and mortal character which, in Heaven under the classical Christian idea of it, will be fulfilled by the nearness of God.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-22 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
"classical Christian idea" = 4th CE onwards?

b/c prior to that there was no afterlife, heaven, nor hell, specified in the texts at all. It was(*koff*is*koff*) a totally different endgame than the "classical" or "traditional" view (i.e. Catholic/Protestant) promoted in most churches today

/tilt at AAALLL the windmills

(Anonymous) 2013-11-22 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Essentially yeah.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-22 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Wouldn't that meant they're just what dead!person imagines the characters to be like and not really the characters themselves?
So Vash himself wouldn't be there. Otherwise what would be the point of "hell" if anyone the person who got there wanted would be in heaven? Say if someone loved a murdering rapist and went to heaven, does that mean rapist goes to heaven too (to make the good person happy) or would they get a copy of the rapist? which is kinda not cool cause if i somehow ended up in "heaven" I'd want the real person i loved/wanted and not a made up one/copy.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-22 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually there's a few Christian branches that don't believe in a hell per se. Rather there's like, being with God and not being with God, and not being with God is supposed to suck but you're not getting tormented in any particular way otherwise. There's also branches where hell's membership is so restricted that you don't really have to worry about any of your loved ones ending up there even if they are murdering rapists--I was brought up in a church which had varying degrees of afterlife glory for people, but your afterlife was really only going to awful if you'd had an absolute knowledge of God (basically you'd have to be a very very high church leader) and denied him still. Everyone else gets an okay afterlife by default, with it getting better depending on how good a person you were.

But to me it seems obvious a fictional character appearing in heaven is going to be what the dead person imagines them to be like. They're fictional. The author/creator is the closest thing to an absolute authority on how they were, and any author/creator has likely shifted views on a character at least once so that really doesn't matter. Fictional characters are as they're perceived to be. There isn't a "real" version of a fictional thing.

In the case of loving real people who do terrible things, that would probably get into nitty gritty of however one's particular theology works. Maybe the person in heaven would be visiting their loved one rather than the loved one coming to them. Maybe the loved one can visit or stay and is healed of wanting to do those things. (I don't think I ever heard this particular case or similar brought up in church, but I imagine this was the answer I would have most likely heard, that people would no longer feel the need or desire to hurt others like that.) Maybe the person in heaven doesn't want to love that person anymore. Maybe heaven is grand but not perfect.