[ SECRET POST #2517 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2517 ⌋

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Comments

[forgottenjester]

I'm adopted so maybe that's why I find Loki's angsty past stupid. It's Thor's backstory that is interesting and complex to me. Also Thor actually grows as a person. Loki stays in the same place. (That said I find Loki okay.)

Thing is though, I don't think you actually care about either character. It looks like you're just trying to imitate those weird Loki fangirls on tumblr.

[(Anonymous)]

Loki stays in the same place.

Hell, he doesn't even do that. He just keeps becoming a shittier person. He doesn't really do much for me as a villain

[forgottenjester]

Yeah, I guess that's true. It's like a never-ending backslide.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing I find interesting about Loki is that his being adopted isn't actually the cause of his damage; he just thinks it is. I mean, the internalized fantasy-racism doesn't help anything, but it was only adding onto things that were already there. Finding out he was adopted made him think he'd found the explanation for the things that were already wrong with his life (but he hadn't).

I'm not sure I agree that Loki is staying in the same place - I think he's in the process of a character arc, but one that's moving a lot more slowly than Thor's (which, I honestly felt, happened way too quickly to be entirely believable, but that's another issue).

[(Anonymous)]

this, when he found out he was a Frost Giant he pretty much gave up on taking responsibility for his own actions because he was all "ah ha, this is why I don't fit in, I never stood a chance! Welp, time to go nuts"

[ketita]

I wish they addressed this aspect of him more, 'cause that's pretty much 100% how I see him. He's just using it as an excuse for terrible behavior.

[forgottenjester]

Yeah, Thor's was rushed but this is a movie and he was gonna have to have some kind of arc in that time. This isn't a TV series where we really get to spend a lot of time on it.

Full disclosure. I haven't seen the latest movie yet. So maybe there's something I'm missing about his arc.

That said, yeah, I agree he uses his adopted status as an excuse but I want to know more about what the real reason is then. I don't really see him going anywhere. He only gets crueler. That's a little bit of development but I guess my huge problem with Loki is that I don't understand his motivations, really. Why does he want what he wants?

All said though, I don't hate Loki. I don't think he's boring. I just like Thor more. (Who has his own problems, I'll admit. (I wasn't exactly a fan of his first movie at all and thought it was a pile of shit.)

[nyxelestia]

I think Loki is just kind of power-hungry and uses the adoption/Jotun thing as an excuse. He's a second son, it's really not that far out of the realm of possibility that he's just jealous of Thor's inheritance and wants some over himself, and ended up going a bit over the edge.

There is a lot of development of Thor's character from the first movie to the Avengers to the second movie...but within the movies themselves, the change seems a bit more minimal. I feel like we see character development but we also end up skipping that development - we tend to see how he's developed and changed, but not the change itself, at least not as much as we should considering how far he's come.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with you on finding the angsty "oh noes I'm adopted" stupid.

Weirdly enough, it reeks of white-supremacist rhetoric to me. Not in a direct way, but the way skinheads will say stuff like "DNA is destiny" really reminds me of Loki. It's completely wrong and a shitty excuse for even shittier behavior.

[forgottenjester]

You mean how his bio-parents are bad guys so he has to be a bad guy?