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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-24 04:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2518 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-11-24 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
This is something that's hard to really understand unless you were there at the beginning. See, when AD first came out, there was nothing like it anywhere on TV, and there never had been anything like it in the history of TV or movies. It was completely, astonishingly new and glorious. Now, about five million shows have imitated it and borrowed elements of it, and there's nothing very special about it anymore.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-24 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. Same thing with a lot of the big fan favorites, like Buffy or X-Files.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-11-24 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like what happened to Seinfeld.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-24 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It's unfunny?

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 12:20 am (UTC)(link)


There really seems to be a backlash against Seinfeld, lately, in some hipstery corners of online fandom. Makes me sad.

It's *not* the type of show that you can understand after watching just a five-minute Youtube clip, or even two or three episodes. There are some stretches of it that are very much about continuity and need to be watched in order.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Seinfeld is one of those shows that I want to watch but I don't because I'm afraid it won't be funny nowadays.
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[personal profile] makoro 2013-11-25 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
as long as you have an understanding of the 90s and dont binge watch you should be ok

i didnt start liking the show till after it was over. i think its cause i was too young, though

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
From what I've heard, some people find S1 and S2 rather slow. It's been a while since I've re-watched, but the middle seasons are often considered the high point, so you might start there.

And yeah, a lot of this show's plots couldn't happen nowadays because of things like cell phones :P

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of people hated Seinfeld during its original run. I think it's a lot like AD in the sense that you need to like at least one of the characters to like the show. That's not always easy when the focus is on the characters' flaws.
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[personal profile] thistlechaser 2013-11-25 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always hated Seinfeld. I hated it when it was airing, I hated it in reruns. I've never disliked a group of characters so much before. Their voices, that it was supposed to be funny and all it did was annoy the hell out of me, everything.

I didn't like AD either, but I didn't hate it the way I did Seinfeld.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS!

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 12:15 am (UTC)(link)


It's a cleverly-made show, but I'm not sure that there had been *nothing* like it. Seinfeld was full of densely layered jokes, references to previous episodes, an accumulation of details that only a faithful viewer would "get", et cetera. AD's use of situations that start out fairly simple and then progressively snowball into surreal absurdity is very Seinfeld-ian.

People who are only casually familiar with Seinfeld just remember the catch-phrases and don't understand how complex it sometimes was.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I mean the nested flashbacks and non-linear jokes and how the show's humor generally plays with time.

I am a huge fan of Seinfeld and greatly appreciate what it did as well, but it didn't do ALL the things that AD did :)