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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-24 04:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2518 ]


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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-11-25 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's a legitimate philosophical position - utilitarianism, most strongly associated with John Stuart Mill - but it's by no means universally accepted as an obvious moral truth. A nice illustration of some of the counterarguments it gets is Ursula LeGuin's "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas."

The other, related, main objection is that everyone, depending on their position in society, or their past life experiences, or just their opinions, has different ideas of how to calculate what "more good than bad" is because there's no standardized, easily quantifiable way to measure the objective moral value of one thing vs another thing, so who exactly gets to set the standards for how moral value is measured? And how do you choose who gets to set the standards? There are other objections too but it has already taken several books to voice them all and people still haven't finished.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
But on the other hand, you can apply the "everyone has different ideas of how to calculate more good than bad" to every other moral philosophy ever.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-11-25 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, exactly. Which is why philosophy is a thing rather than just a bunch of dusty old boring bitchy books. ;) I was just pointing out that what the anon said is a philosophy, and a highly disputed one, not just an obvious logical conclusion.