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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-24 04:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2518 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2518 ⌋

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Re: Because that would mean humanizing the villains in their own lives

(Anonymous) 2013-11-25 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
And this has actualfax scientific basis in what we call attribution theory. It's pretty much expected that at least in modern Western society, if we see someone we identify in the "Them" camp, we think that whatever negative traits we perceive in them is due to their natural behavior or proclivities toward whatever they do. In this case, we identify the villains as being villainous because at heart they are just Bad People.

If when we think about ourselves, or people we identify in the "Us" camp, we think of them doing bad things or being involved in bad situations as something beyond their control, and is something that "happened to them" rather than something "they participated in them".

For a real life example of this having happened, think of Patty Hearst, which was the case study I did for attribution theory. At the time, lots of the media and the public thought Patty Hearst did all that crazy stuff after she was kidnapped because she was just prone toward being a criminal, and there must have been something in her all along to allow her to do it. Never mind that she was kidnapped and in order to stay alive, she did what her kidnappers told her to do.

So yeah. Well observed.
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Re: Because that would mean humanizing the villains in their own lives

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-11-25 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
That's pretty much the other side of the reason why some people prefer the idea of simplistic villains.

As long as they are caricatures, then it's easy to divide the characters into "Them vs Us". The moment they become complex, humanized, and have linear or rational motivations with some element of validity to them outside of pure greed, then the line becomes blurred - and suddenly, either you have to accept that the villains are a result of their circumstances as much as you are, or you are as much the owner of your choices as they are.

A lot of people really hate having to see the world that way...so they don't.