[ SECRET POST #2518 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2518 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's kind of interesting, because until I saw the discussions here after Tangled first came out, I would never have guessed that there would be so many people convinced that Gothel had any sort of warm and genuine feelings toward her private Fountain of Youth Rapunzel. It seemed completely clear to me that the only "affection" she ever expressed toward Rapunzel as a person was calculated to keep her compliant, and didn't stem from any sincere bond with the girl. And I thought that was one of the best parts of the movie - the way it clearly showed how insidious abuse and manipulation can be.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, Rapunzel was locked in a tower, after all, I don't think Gothel thought she could escape. She could've just kept her locked in dungeon or something... not that the "it could've been worse" argument is redeeming to Gothel (nor meant to be) but I think Gothel really wanted to be the mother, and to some extent really did want Rapunzel to be happy. I don't know, the scene where Gothel doesn't want to go far to get Rapunzel's requested birthday present, but Rapunzel begs, and Gothel finally caves (and I think smiles at Rapunzel)... it's not like, a deep moment, but it's something Gothel didn't have to or even want to do, but decided to go out of her way to get it to make Rapunzel happy.

I guess you could argue that a happier Rapunzel is a more compliant Rapunzel, but I dunno. I think the blatant comparison to real life parental abuse is what gives the movie substance, and I do believe that abusers can care about or even "love" their victims, and that doesn't minimize the crime itself. I appreciate any reminder that 100% evil villains are unrealistic, because that's basically how it is in real life.