[ SECRET POST #2518 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2518 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Because that would mean humanizing the villains in their own lives

[elialshadowpine]

In my case, Gothel didn't remind me of my mom. She reminded me of my dad. Right down to her villain song being literal quotes that my Dad has said before. I enjoyed the movie but really broke down after watching it because... yeah.

For me, I can see the complexity with Gothel, because I see it in my own dad. Dad... I truly believe does care for me, but he has some seriously fucked up attitudes and beliefs, but there was definitely a daughter-as-possession aspect, and I can see the same with Gothel. It's made it very difficult to watch, and the threads in which people have basically defended Gothel's abuse have been really difficult for me (I wasn't locked in a tower, but I was homeschooled, very sheltered, and allowed to see people my own age maybe every six months after a certain point... the ONLY reason I got out was because I had unfiltered internet access, met friends, and got the fuck out of dodge as soon as I turned 18. Otherwise I have no doubt my dad would have done everything he could to keep me there).

Re: Because that would mean humanizing the villains in their own lives

[jazmin_firewing.livejournal.com]

I'm so sorry that happened to you, and I'm glad you were able to get out safely. Thank you for sharing your story.

Re: Because that would mean humanizing the villains in their own lives

[elialshadowpine]

Thank you :)

Re: Because that would mean humanizing the villains in their own lives

[nyxelestia]

I'm so sorry to hear you went through all that, anon. *hugs* I'm glad you got out of there. :)

And yeah, I think the fact Goethel represents so many horrific parenting attitudes and values has made her a far more viscerally terrifying antagonist than some of Disney-history's worst villains. It's always the villains who manifest 'real world' attributes that hit us in the gut the most.

Re: Because that would mean humanizing the villains in their own lives

[elialshadowpine]

I am actually not anon, this is my name. :)

Yes, I absolutely agree with you regarding Gothel. The real-world stuff hits damn hard, because so many people have been through it.

Re: Because that would mean humanizing the villains in their own lives

[nyxelestia]

Ah, sorry - I kind of assumed nonny = anon account.

I remember seeing something on Tumblr about how the reason why Gaston was one of the disconcerting villains, if not downright terrifying, was not because of his strength or trying to kill Beast, but because he managed to use fear-mongering to turn the town against Belle and further his own agenda, as well as his objections to women reading early on in the movie. For many people who come from that kind of environment, Gaston is an all-to-real villain in their lives.

That's probably one of the more interesting things about the recent trend in villains of children's franchises - making a villain who shares real attributes with real darkness in the world. It is somehow less and more scary at the same time.