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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-25 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2519 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I feel you, OP.

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-11-26 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I totally sympathize, OP!
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WATCH THE A-TEAM.

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2013-11-26 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
The show goes out it's way (hilariously) to show no one ever dies.

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ON A SIMILAR NOTE

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[personal profile] sabotabby 2013-11-26 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm actually writing a novel along those lines, where several of the characters have had their lives destroyed by heroic action types. That's how much it bothers me.

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[personal profile] electromouse 2013-11-26 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Same here, OP. This is why I couldn't stand watching Transformers 3.
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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2013-11-26 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I completely agree, OP. I've always preferred writing 'background' characters due to this - the kind of people who are not generally seen as heroic. They have stories too.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-11-26 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's really sweet.

On the flip side...

(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of weirded out when everybody disappears except for the focus characters (unless there's a plausible explanation). Like when a scene starts out with lots of bystanders and they somehow disperse within seconds. Or a car chase starts on a busy highway, but then when the action gets more tightly focused, they don't pass anybody, they don't run into traffic.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I'm totally like that too, I watch these people "save the day" and all I think is BUT BUT BUT x number of innocent people just died and I'm supposed to be happy here that the heroes are all smiles and okay and not giving a ***?!

(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I get this sometimes, but more often I get indignant on behalf of the bystanders who get harassed/intimidated/stolen from in the course of a mission on Burn Notice or Leverage.

There's one canon where the bystander body count really bothers me (Haven, on which I am like three weeks behind and trying to find the time to catch up), but it's also a canon where the main characters are acutely aware of the bystander body count, do everything in their power not to contribute to it, and consider it part of the larger problem they're trying to solve, so I appreciate that.

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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-11-26 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I try not to think of the bystanders, but if anyone makes a joke about someone dying it IMMEDIATELY turns me off. Not enough to stop watching, but I'll get sad about it.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
ugh I have this same problem. like it's supposed to apparently be "easier" to watch when the death toll is higher? like "ten people dead sucks but a thousand dead and meh" AND IT'S WORSE TO ME like seriously do these supposed "heroes" even give a shit? A two-minute scene with them showing some kind of remorse or sympathy might be nice. I get that they're busy with plot and stuff, but damn. They're PEOPLE.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I can't stand watching horror / survival / disaster movies for this reason. I don't care about the one person that survives the disaster we're supposed to be rooting for, because everywhere else you're seeing literally thousands of people dying. Hooray?

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
You are a nice person, OP. :

(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
I also hate gratuitous bystander deaths. I have to go out of my way to create a headcanon on how they can survive.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I was watching Batman Begins the other day and this was really bugging me. WTF Batman, you don't kill people, why did you just blow up three police cars? They're just trying to do their jobs!
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[personal profile] atelierlune 2013-11-26 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I feel like meaningless bystander death and destruction has gotten worse lately in action films. I'm sick of it.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the same! (I've spent whole movies angsting about it!)

(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
I spent like 55 minutes in War Horse bawling not because of the tragedy of the horse or the main boy character, but bawling because of everyone around them that was dying or getting injured/maimed. Like in the scene(s) where all the horses and men around Joey are going down...just endless tears.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
With you there! I can totally suspend disbelief if it's faceless masses, but get one kid in there (Iron Man and most of the other recent MCU movies...) it jerks me right out from "fun" into "really upset".

(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
OhGodyes. The day I caught myself watching a trailer for that movie where Steve Carell is Noah, and all I could think of was whether the city was evacuated before the flood-- that was the day I knew I was done with Blow Shit Up movies. I just can't stop thinking about all the imaginary people being imaginarily killed. I'm so glad it's not just me!

(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel you. This is why I have trouble watching catastrophe movies. The TRAILER for 2012 made me feel physically ill, just imagining all the destruction and death. I don't care how good the special effects are and how much visual porn there is. I just can't watch these movies.

I don't have this problem, with, say anti-war movies though. Movies and stories that want you to empathise rather than movies that live of destruction as a spectacle, are ok. They'll make me cry, but they don't make me sick.

If the deaths of random mooks and bystanders is given weight I'm totally okay with it. Not when it's just an excuse to fap to special effects and landscape gorn.
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Totally agreed, OP

[personal profile] thistlechaser 2013-11-26 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm right there with you. It boggles me that no one else considers all the lives lost and people hurt when, say, a giant monster crashes into a building. What about all those homes/apartments lost? The pets who might have died in the crash? The people hurt, trapped? But hey, the heroes killed the monster so it's all good?

(Anonymous) 2013-11-26 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It bothers me immensely when an action [anything] has people getting meaninglessly killed just for coolness or thrills. It gives off vibes of a disregard for human life that makes my heart sink.

On a tangent, I also tend to feel terrible for any faceless soldiers/guards/etc the hero casually slaughters. I always imagine their childhoods and their parents.

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