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⌈ Secret Post #291 ⌋

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Posting for Shahni due to lack of computer and early due to class.

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But there's no reason to assume that the OP is a gay male, so why should it be necessary to the sake of the comparison for this commenter to be black?

It's the same thing. "I like to throw around a hateful, powerfully offensive slur aimed at a minority of which I may or may not be a part of, then sneer at people who actually are upset by this reminder of hatred."

And frankly, your argument smacks of victim-blaming anyway, which really bothers me as a general rule. :/

You do have a valid point there, yes. I was simply pointing out that this word no longer holds quite as much (yes, I know there's still discussions ongoing over the use of the word) power as it used to.

It's the same thing. "I like to throw around a hateful, powerfully offensive slur aimed at a minority of which I may or may not be a part of, then sneer at people who actually are upset by this reminder of hatred." - My point is that I believe the use of the word over the internet, where it's losing a lot of it's meaning, is a step towards it no longer being a 'hateful, powerfully offensive slur'. The same with people not being upset by it's use - not because they believe in the negative connotations, but because the word, to them, is losing or has lost those connotations.

I'm not victim-blaming. If I used the word "faggot" in front of a gay male, and he asked me not to, I apologise and not use the word in front of him again - I would not have a go at him for it. At the same time, however, if someone uses the word "cunt" in front of me, I'm not phased in the slightest, because of my opinion stated in the previous comment.

In which case you should treat other people who get offended by the word "faggot" the same way as you would your hypothetical gay male friend--you apologize and stop doing it, rather than calling them oversensitive.

When did I call anyone oversensitive? I said that getting offended at anything on the internet is largely pointless and a waste of energy.

In this case, my 'hypothetical gay male friend' has more standing on the issue than I do - however, if a girl asked me not to use the word 'cunt' in front of her, the outcome would be slightly different.

I'd say, in this topic, audience and context are everything.

I meant hypothetically, not you specifically. I've seen people call others oversensitive for getting offended.

In any case, I just don't understand why it's so hard just not to use words that are widely considered very offensive. It's not like you have to say them.

In general I don't use these words. But I do swear like a sailor. You don't have to use these words, but automatically not being allowed to use them... If using them means that they start to lose their meaning, then I'd prefer that over pseudo-censorship and PC-culture. But that's my opinion.

I don't mind swear words so much (I do curse quite a lot as well) because generally they're not targeted toward a specific group in society--at least not the ones I use, not intentionally. But let's agree to disagree. :)

My point is that the use of "faggot" on the internet has become a lot like that - no longer intentionally targeted toward a specific group of people. You can look through the history of a lot of swear words and see exactly the same thing has happened in the past - a 'light' one is "bastard", which used to be a derogatory term for people born out of wedlock. "Bugger" meant someone who participated in anal sex (and actually had a worse connotations regarding sex with children, originally.)

I know "faggot" isn't at this point yet, but I believe the way it's going it'll get there eventually, but only if we let it.

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