[ SECRET POST #291 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #291 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Posting for Shahni due to lack of computer and early due to class.

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 105 secrets from Secret Submission Post #042.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, October 24th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 7.

[rarebirds]

The difference is that (in my viewing of OP 7's secret) the audience they are seeking to get a rise out of are not actually the homosexual male community (although I am confused on the community they are actually trying to get a rise out of - I can only assume they mean the yaoi community, in which I do see a lot of this behaviour.)

I myself would not use the word "faggot" in front of a gay male if he asked me not to, nor would I ever use the word "nigger". But I make it a point that I do not give words that 'should' be personally insulting to me any power, and it's a philosophy I openly sell to others (but I don't have a go at them if they don't buy it XD )

Re: 7.

[(Anonymous)]

I understand what you mean, and - my being a foreigner not quite familiar with the situation in the US aside - I'm frankly all for it. The problem I have identified, though, has more to do with intent than targeted audience. OP 7 clearly expects a significant number of people to find the word 'faggot' offensive, just as the person in the example expects members of a black community to be offended by the use of 'nigger'. The secret maker does not specify what he/she makes of homosexuals, but in any case, we can probably assume that a - there will be homosexuals included in the the audience and b - non-homosexuals may also this word derogatory. And really, it doesn't matter. It's the thoughtless, attention-seeking attitude that stands to be condemned - a word may just be a word, but when used in the way that OP 7 has detailed, that is giving it rein to do harm. The best way to combat this is just to let these ugly words die with the negative meanings that they hold.

Re: 7.

[rarebirds]

I'm from the UK, so my opinion is most likely a little skewed anyway (to me, while the word faggot most often means gay male, it could just as easily mean a type of pork offal meatball found in some fish and chip shops - perhaps this holds more over my perception of the word before I even touched the internet, but this is neither here nor there.)

Yes, in this example, it is trolling in it's purest form. But the best way to deal with trolls is not to react to them - you're only feeding them. In this way it should not be 'condemned', but ignored or laughed at. OP 7 is clearly only doing it for the lulz, and it's this offended attitude that they're looking for - but from the phrasing I'd say that they've had experience, in that they've possibly come from a community like 4chan or somethingawful, where the use of the word faggot (and nigger) doesn't mean anything anymore, and then used it in an LJ fandom comm and started surprise!wank. I have seen this happen myself, and usually the person who started it will just end up laughing at everyone for thinking that their opinion actually matters to them. Which, from what I can gather, is exactly what OP 7 is saying (and is, unfortunately, how most internet arguments go.)