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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-26 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2520 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2520 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-27 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
This.

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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-11-27 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, yes, this.

It really isn't. There's nothing wrong with it, but don't claim you did something when you just watched someone else do it. That's like watching someone... I dunno, fix a bathtub then taking credit for it.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-27 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Shush with your logic.


/button mashing peon here.
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(Anonymous) 2013-11-27 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
You win the internetz

(Anonymous) 2013-11-27 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Only the thread wasn't about "I'm a gamer even though I never played a game" but about "You can't call yourself a fan of a game you never played".
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-11-27 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
The one from the other day or whatever? True, but that was sort of the reaction, and it's a fairly common argument whenever LPs have come up in the past.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-27 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that one. Just saying, because that's what the others were alluding too, I think.

But yeah, generally, calling yourself a gamer when only watching LPs is definitely stupid.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-27 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that anyone is claiming that watching an LP = playing the game. But the argument from the other day was saying that in order to be a fan of something, you have to have physically played it, when that's just elitist and false.

A fan means you like something. You can like that something for many, many reasons. People are fans of TV shows because of: plot, characters, genre, shipping, actors/actresses, humor, relevance to their lives, writers, directors, sexy bodies, their headcanons, family or friend dynamics, etc. And no two fans are fans of a show for the same reasons.

In that same vein, a person can be a fan of a video game for multiple reasons. While yes, not physically playing the game itself may change their experience of the game, they're still allowed to consider themselves a fan, because they enjoy the content. And that's all right.

Do those who play the game get more out of it, or a different experience? Perhaps. But you don't get to call yourself a fan of a book, movie, tv show, etc. if you've noticed every little nuance of the canon material. You can be a fan and only have caught half the episodes, if you don't pay attention to the story lines of some of the cast, if you don't know the actors names, if you watch it on a kindle instead of a big screen in the theaters, if you watch it with no sound and subtitles instead, and so on. There are probably some fans of games who know more about the games than those who have played them, because they so thoroughly enjoy the franchise that they have poured over wikis, read countless fanfic, watched all the LPs they can find, and so on. They may not have played the games physically (for whatever reason they may have, and no reason is less valid than any other), but they're still very much fans.

Because, when you get down to it, to be a fan of something means you like and enjoy that thing. And there are billions of ways to enjoy anything that trying to put a single hard definition to it is silly.

If everyone enjoyed everything in the same way, then this would be a very boring world.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-27 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
But you don't get to call yourself a fan of a book, movie, tv show, etc. *only if you've noticed every little nuance of the canon material.

*correcting a typo. Haha.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-27 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
What you dismiss as nuance might be important to the experience of someone else and is part of their enjoyment.

Call yourself and enjoy whatever you want, don't try to discredit those who play the game or belittle what is important to them. Combat, button mashing, so forth.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-11-27 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oh goodness. Haha, do you think the two OPs should hang out and banter? Might be fun.