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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-26 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2520 ]


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crunchysunrises: (Default)

Re: Welcome to Neo-Feminism

[personal profile] crunchysunrises 2013-11-27 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Forget bothering with all of those justifications. There's a difference between cultural appropriation and multiculturalism.

Based on the (admittedly not full length picture) this seems to be the latter.
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Re: Welcome to Neo-Feminism

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-27 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
It's about as much "multiculturalism" as Johnny Depp putting a dead bird on his head and pretending to be a noble savage was.

It was stupid. We're allowed to call it stupid. I doubt this means Katy Perry hates Asian people but it's still really, really dumb.
crunchysunrises: Koharu the Dragon from Spirited Away (Dragon - Koharu)

Re: Welcome to Neo-Feminism

[personal profile] crunchysunrises 2013-11-27 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
The Japanese borrow from Western history/tradition/fashion/whatever all the time. They've got a terribly popular and famous artist/designer who specializes in polka dots. And then there's the rising star who studied Western fashion in Europe for a few years before returning to Japan and starting a line which blends traditional kimono patterns/fabrics with elements of western fashion and aesthetics, including clothing shapes. Unless you'd like to claim it's also stupid for a Japanese fashionista/designer to blend styles and riff off of traditional Japanese culture?

It's a double standard (with a fair helping of cultural imperialism and Othering) to say that it's okay for Asian cultures to borrow from western countries the stuff that they enjoy about us but heaven help any westerner who wears a dress loosely based on a general kimono pattern.

And I will laugh myself silly if it turns out that she got that dress off of one of the Japanese fashion labels.

(As for the bird thing... Pirates of the Caribbean? Lone Ranger? I dunno. I've skipped most of his more recent movies for a variety of reasons.)

Re: Welcome to Neo-Feminism

(Anonymous) 2013-11-27 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
And I will laugh myself silly if it turns out that she got that dress off of one of the Japanese fashion labels.

Me too, but I don't think that would stop the cries of "appropriation!", because in that case she's still not the right ethnicity to be wearing it.

/eyeroll
crunchysunrises: (Default)

Re: Welcome to Neo-Feminism

[personal profile] crunchysunrises 2013-11-28 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
*eyerolls with you*

Then I wish the "cultural purists" luck in divesting Japanese business people of their Western suits. They'll need it.

Re: Welcome to Neo-Feminism

(Anonymous) 2013-11-27 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not similar at all. Johnny's character was meant to be an actual Native American. Katy Perry isn't pretending to be an actual Japanese geisha. And Native Americans are a minority oppressed by white people on their own lands. Japanese aren't a minority fighting the white oppressors in Japan for basic human rights.