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I thought the implication of My Fair Lady was that Freddie did in the end marry Eliza?

/disclaimer, haven't seen this for years.

I believe she does in the play, but in the movie she marries the professor.

Ah, OK. No accounting for taste ;-)

No, in the movie she comes back to the professor and it just cuts out. It was meant to imply those two ended up together, but...fuck that.

I'm pretty sure they married in the original play/whatever it was (called Pygmalion). In the movie My Fair Lady, she goes back to Prof Higgins and I think the implication is she stays with him.

She also went back to Higgins in Pygmalion (the Wendy Hiller film, that is).

In the play, Eliza ended up with Freddie as Shaw didn't want there to be a romance between Eliza and Prof. Higgins. The film ends with Eliza going back to Prof. Higgins.

But Freddie is so pretty, because Jeremy. Movie!Eliza is clearly cracked.

Hahaha this was my exact opinion when I first saw the movie when I was a kid ;) Of course later, I realized that a big part of the movie was Eliza realizing the childishness and fleetingness of romanticized notions like a young man who professes to be madly in love with a woman he barely knows based mainly on the fact that she made him laugh.

(OTOH, I didn't think the ending was supposed to be explicitly Eliza coming back to Higgins in a romantic sense? I kind of just saw it as her coming back to forgive and make up with him, with a bit of a possibly-romantic hinting. But it's been a while since I saw the movie so my perception might be weird.)

Tell me about it! I kept on thinking she had to be mad to turn down Freddie.

Originally the play ended with her saying she'd marry Freddie as soon as she could support him financially, but Shaw wrote an addendum when the musical adaption had an Eliza/Higgins ending. Shaw did not appreaciate Broadway interrogating the text from the wrong perspective.

The movie ending left things a bit more ambigious than the musical. Eliza does return to Higgins' house, but IIRC it didn't malign Eliza/Freddie either, IIRC.

"This being the state of human affairs, what is Eliza fairly sure to do when she is placed between Freddy and Higgins? Will she look forward to a lifetime of fetching Higgins's slippers or to a lifetime of Freddy fetching hers? There can be no doubt about the answer. Unless Freddy is biologically repulsive to her, and Higgins biologically attractive to a degree that overwhelms all her other instincts, she will, if she marries either of them, marry Freddy."

http://www.bartleby.com/138/6.html

All good and well...until you consider the addendum to the play that makes it fairly clear that she does go back to Higgins.

Yes, well, creators have been known to cave under fan pressure for shippings.

See Andrew Lloyd Webber.

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blueonblue - 2013-11-28 22:02 (UTC) - Expand

Wait wait whoa hang on that was Jeremy Brett?????? O.o

*runs off to re-watch the movie for the first time in like five years*

Watch him in The Portrait of Dorian Grey too. He's swoonworthy in that...in the beginning, anyway.

I admit I'll watch pretty much anything for Jeremy Brett wandering around in Victorian clothes. He didn't even have to *do* anything.

OT: I immediately recognized Freddie and was excited at the thought of a MFL secret but then SO CONFUSED when the secret started off with Sherlock Holmes.

On-topic:

I dislike adaptions in which Eliza/Higgins is the endgame. I much prefer Eliza/Freddie, but now I want a crossover where Freddie/Sherlock comes across Eliza during one of his cases and is overtaken by the feelings he still has for her. Extra points if she has fully become the proper lady Higgins trained her to be, but Freddie/Sherlock makes her fall back into some of her more abrasive mannerisms because Freddie is linked to the part of her past where "poised and composed" didn't come to her naturally.

Hee! I can just see Eliza telling some villain to "move your bloomin' arse".

And poor Watson is SO CONFUSED about this woman who slips in and out of Cockney and wehy Holmes is uncharacteristically enamored of her.

I'm not even the biggest Sherlock Holmes fan, but I would read the fuck out of this.

I'm not even a Sherlock Holmes fan at all (unless you count Elementary) but now I want it like burning.

Edited 2013-11-28 01:31 (UTC)

Not related to the Sherlock-ness of the secret buttttt...

I found Freddie to be annoying as hell and creepy and I'm so glad she didn't end up with him.

A guy who falls in love with a girl after five minutes because she makes him laugh with her 'adorable' social faux pas? The social faux pas that left her mortified? Never mind that this was the girl he practically shoved into the gutter in the middle of a downpour and didn't pay a lick of attention to earlier in the film. Stick her in a pretty dress and suddenly he's in love? Yea, right. I really doubt it would have lasted. I always felt like Freddy was fascinated with her the way you become fascinated by some weird oddity at a carnival. Or like visiting a new country and becoming obsessed with all the pretty things that you forget about as soon as you go back home.

I liked that Higgins was in love with her but that she wasn't in love with him. She cared about him deeply as a friend and mentor. And honestly? It always made me happy that, in spite of all his schooling and intelligence, she still had the upper hand in the end. He was even more of a wreck without her than she was without him.

Edited 2013-11-28 01:35 (UTC)

Uh dude? That's kind of exactly the point of the character. Silly young love that thinks it's the end-all-be-all of grand eternal love. I haven't seen the movie in years and even I remember that. Didn't you listen to Eliza's song?

Words, words, words
I'm so sick of words
I get words all day through
First from him, now from you
Is that all you blighters can do?

Don't talk of stars, burning above
If you're in love, show me
Tell me no dreams, filled with desire
If you're on fire, show me

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Here we are together in the middle of the night
Don't talk of spring, just hold me tight
Anyone who's ever been in love'll tell you that
This is no time for a chat

Haven't your arms, hungered for mine?
Please don't "expline", show me, show me
And don't wait until wrinkles and lines
Pop out all over my brow, show me now

What part of my comment makes you think that I missed the point of the character? This was the first musical that I ever watched as a child and remains one of my absolute favorites. I know that it's the point of the character.

But apparently a ton of people up-thread think that Eliza should have absolutely chosen him and would have been happy with him. Which just blows my mind entirely. Eliza was vacation to Freddy. Great because it's new and shiny but you would absolutely get sick of it after a while. I don't see how anyone would want Eliza to commit to that.

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